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  • tls90lx
    X275
    • Sep 2005
    • 4121

    #61
    Originally posted by ds5dot View Post
    Power adder on 600cid is going to kick 281cid with 2 power adders a$$!!!!!!!!!

    And when your power adder car is faster than my NA car then you can talk

    Also I probably spraying N02 when you were in diapers!! So don't tell me to get with the times.

    lmao

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    • I Tried
      Pull my Winch Line 4 Me.
      • May 2003
      • 6103

      #62
      Originally posted by ds5dot View Post
      Power adder on 600cid is going to kick 281cid with 2 power adders a$$!!!!!!!!!

      And when your power adder car is faster than my NA car then you can talk

      Also I probably spraying N02 when you were in diapers!! So don't tell me to get with the times.


      Wow that is the most sig material I have seen on this board in years.

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      • ds5dot
        RS/N Champ 2009
        • Aug 2005
        • 1657

        #63
        Originally posted by nazisaleen View Post
        Every time I am bitching about my car to Two Lehner he tells me to talk to you. I should sometime think about another engine but I am always limited to the fact that I am dealing with a unique car. Than I look at my Roadrunner and think I should put the money into that.
        You have to many toys.
        I build mopars too.
        Last edited by ds5dot; 11-29-2007, 09:48 AM.

        Thanks to:
        www.meanstreetperformance.com
        http://transport-graphics.com/
        http://knowltonsthunderheads.com/
        http://www.normstire.com/

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        • I Tried
          Pull my Winch Line 4 Me.
          • May 2003
          • 6103

          #64
          Originally posted by LES View Post
          Well if you can build a 700hp BBC for $8000 send me your secret recipe, because it will be a POS budget build. I am building a 9.5 deck now and my heads will eat up 1/2 of that $8000 and I am Praying for 700hp na.
          Malibu 496 had about 8G in his 612 hp 496ci Big Block Chevy and it was all good parts. He ran it for Years only had to change the oil and fill with pump gas. It is the most maitnance free combo I have ever seen the motor ran 9's in a 3,400lb car on a small hit of spary and could be driven anywhere. The engine and nitrous system are for sale if you know anybody looking.


          He paid I think $800 for ported cast iron heads that flowed enough to make 600hp with a little cam and pump gas so I think with a bigger roller cam and more compression and race gas 700 would have been easy.

          I dont think you will make 700 hp with a windsor on pump gas. NA

          Tim

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          • NAZISALEEN
            Afro Samurai
            • Sep 2004
            • 12235

            #65
            Originally posted by ds5dot View Post
            You have to many toys.
            I build mopars too.
            I will need help when it is 440 time. I will find you then. I am thinking big stuff fuel injected with an BIG turbo and a T56. I want it to get out of it's own way.

            First it has to get painted.

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            • ds5dot
              RS/N Champ 2009
              • Aug 2005
              • 1657

              #66
              Originally posted by I Tried View Post
              Malibu 496 had about 8G in his 612 hp 496ci Big Block Chevy and it was all good parts. He ran it for Years only had to change the oil and fill with pump gas. It is the most maitnance free combo I have ever seen the motor ran 9's in a 3,400lb car on a small hit of spary and could be driven anywhere. The engine and nitrous system are for sale if you know anybody looking.


              He paid I think $800 for ported cast iron heads that flowed enough to make 600hp with a little cam and pump gas so I think with a bigger roller cam and more compression and race gas 700 would have been easy.

              I dont think you will make 700 hp with a windsor on pump gas. NA

              Tim

              I think you could make 700hp out of a windsor on pump gas but it would cost you.

              Thanks to:
              www.meanstreetperformance.com
              http://transport-graphics.com/
              http://knowltonsthunderheads.com/
              http://www.normstire.com/

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              • I Tried
                Pull my Winch Line 4 Me.
                • May 2003
                • 6103

                #67
                Originally posted by ds5dot View Post
                I think you could make 700hp out of a windsor on pump gas but it would cost you.
                You are right if you spend the money anything can be done. I was reading a wright up on a 900ci pump gas motor making 1,200 hp. It will require a large investment and alot of maitnance.

                I am trying to say the cost to make the same power level goes down when the ci goes up. Not necessarly better for all applications.

                Back on topic what is better a boss block or dart.

                I am cheap and that is why I run a sportsman block. But I am a budget racer who spens more time on my ass in the bleachers than on the track so dont take my advise.

                Tim

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                • NAZISALEEN
                  Afro Samurai
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 12235

                  #68
                  Don't these guys get huge N/A numbers for HUGE money

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                  • LES
                    Doing more with Les!
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 33157

                    #69
                    Originally posted by ds5dot View Post
                    Why not build bigger CID with a 9.5 deck block. You can make it work with a good enough induction. I think that it is a good idea to build a bigger motor. I probably will.


                    It is a damn poor mind indeed which can't think of at least two ways to spell any word.
                    Andrew Jackson

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                    • LES
                      Doing more with Les!
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 33157

                      #70
                      Originally posted by I Tried View Post
                      Malibu 496 had about 8G in his 612 hp 496ci Big Block Chevy and it was all good parts. He ran it for Years only had to change the oil and fill with pump gas. It is the most maitnance free combo I have ever seen the motor ran 9's in a 3,400lb car on a small hit of spary and could be driven anywhere. The engine and nitrous system are for sale if you know anybody looking.


                      He paid I think $800 for ported cast iron heads that flowed enough to make 600hp with a little cam and pump gas so I think with a bigger roller cam and more compression and race gas 700 would have been easy.

                      I dont think you will make 700 hp with a windsor on pump gas. NA

                      Tim
                      Ok can I clarify your challange?? E85 comes from a pump right??? Just checking . K thanks .. And he Had $800 in his heads or paid $800 for bare castings?? Lets get everything straight here.
                      It is a damn poor mind indeed which can't think of at least two ways to spell any word.
                      Andrew Jackson

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                      • Ford Fan
                        T/S 2009
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 5688

                        #71
                        I was going to stay out of this but since I did quite a bit of research on this one I'll chime in.

                        Dollar for dollar the bigger cubic inch motor will make more power and be more reliable, period. I was very close to building a BBF and decided to go with a stroker windsor because of the ET factor. I could have a 800 hp big block for what I've got into this small block. I could run it on pump gas and it probably would have made 250 more ft. lbs of torque than the windsor is going to.

                        As far as comparing money, it's two different worlds when buying everything new and buying used stuff. This theory goes out the window when buying used.

                        The heads in reference I think were $900. They were ported and polished with bigger valves put in them. They are factory oval port BBC heads. Everything Tim said is legit and a good example of a BBC on pump gas. Pump gas being 92 octane.
                        Last edited by Ford Fan; 11-29-2007, 11:11 AM.
                        8.54 @ 159 mph on a 275 drag radial
                        5.43 @ 127 mph to the 1/8
                        8.91 @ 153 in True Street legal trim
                        Best 60' at Top End Dragways 1.22 on 275's

                        Thanks to the following:
                        Richard at Mean Street Performance
                        DSMotorworks
                        Transport Graphics
                        Knowlton's Thunderheads
                        www.twolaneracing.com

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                        • I Tried
                          Pull my Winch Line 4 Me.
                          • May 2003
                          • 6103

                          #72
                          Originally posted by LES View Post
                          Ok can I clarify your challange?? E85 comes from a pump right??? Just checking . K thanks .. And he Had $800 in his heads or paid $800 for bare castings?? Lets get everything straight here.
                          When you make the power prove me wrong. He paid $800 for the pair of heads set up with good valves and springs everything ready to run.

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                          • 289Notch
                            Lowballer
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 7340

                            #73
                            I paid $300 for my used heads, which are totally junk compared to a set of canted valve heads. Threw in some 2.05s and a little more porting.

                            prolly about $1000 total after a valve job and some decking.

                            made 1.445 HP per cubic inche on 92 octane pump gas with a 750 carb.

                            I know the same thing has and can be done on 496 BBCs. 1.445 HP per inch on a 496=716 HP.

                            I've saw it in magazines more than once. They go to a swap meat and buy all the parts used and have everything checked and machined. 700HP for $5000.

                            Good parts are still good parts after they are used.
                            Mustangless!

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