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  • waterbug1999
    Got Beer?
    • Aug 2005
    • 3554

    Originally posted by sport the war View Post
    when you got your reeds, did they have a jet chart and what the fuel screws were supposed to be tuned to? watch your a/f because you can go piggly rich on the bottom and be lean as fuck on the big end. a jet can only be tuned so much when it comes down to reeds and a/f along with your clutching and rpm. your plugs can only tell you so much when you're not opening up the reeds.
    I emailed boyesen and they recommended to got down one size and read plugs. I went out with fotoboy after I installed them and it ran fine and felt really strong the way it was.. But, it was cold (10*) so I left it as is.. Just this past weekend was warmer and it ran like shit up top and felt slower down low.. So, I just want to go leaner down low and up top some.

    1999 Trans Am
    10.71@126.9 / stock shortblock

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    • lark-o
      TCS Homer
      • Apr 2006
      • 10489

      Ive had good luck running with out needles and jets. Ive never burned it down

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      • waterbug1999
        Got Beer?
        • Aug 2005
        • 3554

        well, I found this charting... Wouldn't it be safe to just throw in the 480 jets?




        1999 Trans Am
        10.71@126.9 / stock shortblock

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        • sport the war
          لا أحد يعلم ما يقول هذا لكنها
          • Dec 2004
          • 17482

          I'd do as they suggested and go down a size.

          Originally posted by CAMSS30
          I have my hand on the pulse of CL users after 7-8 years of dealing with them daily.

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          • waterbug1999
            Got Beer?
            • Aug 2005
            • 3554

            Originally posted by sport the war View Post
            I'd do as they suggested and go down a size.
            You think adding a pair of EGT sensors would help for tuning?

            Like if its running too hot (too lean), then go up a jet size and visa versa? Is that how it works? Go by EGT's and not AF?

            1999 Trans Am
            10.71@126.9 / stock shortblock

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            • 1moretoy
              EAT SLEEP FISH
              • May 2005
              • 27018

              Jet it to the way YOUR sled runs best. What works for one, does not work for all. Yes the charts will get you in the ball park. I have never heard of people running the EXACT same set up and get the EXACT same results.

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              • sport the war
                لا أحد يعلم ما يقول هذا لكنها
                • Dec 2004
                • 17482

                Originally posted by 1moretoy View Post
                Jet it to the way YOUR sled runs best. What works for one, does not work for all. Yes the charts will get you in the ball park. I have never heard of people running the EXACT same set up and get the EXACT same results.
                true it depends on condition of motor, exhaust condition and other factors such as temp. of course you're going to be talking elevation also. but to get a good idea of where you're at indexing your jets is a good place to start and tune from there.

                Originally posted by CAMSS30
                I have my hand on the pulse of CL users after 7-8 years of dealing with them daily.

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                • Southern
                  Brougham
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 34553

                  I really like my efi might not be the fastest, but I sure as hell dont have to dick around with jets.

                  Now to just dick around with the clutch to get it right
                  ./ ____ _ _\.
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                  \o_FORD_o/
                  |__|.....|__|

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                  • lark-o
                    TCS Homer
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 10489

                    Originally posted by waterbug1999 View Post
                    You think adding a pair of EGT sensors would help for tuning?

                    Like if its running too hot (too lean), then go up a jet size and visa versa? Is that how it works? Go by EGT's and not AF?
                    although a useful tool, its not needed for a stock sled. go by plugs and what the piston looks like. the more you ride your sled the more youll notice how its running. keep it fat and work your way down in little increments.

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                    • waterbug1999
                      Got Beer?
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 3554

                      Originally posted by lark-o View Post
                      although a useful tool, its not needed for a stock sled. go by plugs and what the piston looks like. the more you ride your sled the more youll notice how its running. keep it fat and work your way down in little increments.
                      I hear what your saying... but you go by EGT's and not A/F on two strokes right?

                      1999 Trans Am
                      10.71@126.9 / stock shortblock

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                      • lark-o
                        TCS Homer
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 10489

                        Originally posted by waterbug1999 View Post
                        I hear what your saying... but you go by EGT's and not A/F on two strokes right?
                        yea EGTs. I think because of how much fuel is wasted on a 2 stroke you could never get a accurate A/F. plus all the soot would plug a o2 sensor.

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                        • waterbug1999
                          Got Beer?
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 3554

                          Originally posted by lark-o View Post
                          yea EGTs. I think because of how much fuel is wasted on a 2 stroke you could never get a accurate A/F. plus all the soot would plug a o2 sensor.
                          ill look into some over the summer.. it would totally take out the guessing game.

                          1999 Trans Am
                          10.71@126.9 / stock shortblock

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                          • lark-o
                            TCS Homer
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 10489

                            Originally posted by waterbug1999 View Post
                            ill look into some over the summer.. it would totally take out the guessing game.
                            yea and you can always take them off and put them on a different sled. Ive thought about buying a set but just never have.

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                            • 1moretoy
                              EAT SLEEP FISH
                              • May 2005
                              • 27018

                              Originally posted by Southern View Post
                              I really like my efi might not be the fastest, but I sure as hell dont have to dick around with jets.

                              Now to just dick around with the clutch to get it right
                              Clutching is more important than dropping a jet size or throwing in some reeds. You'll gain nothing if it can't put it to the ground.

                              I'm still running the same jets Arctic cat put in the day they made it. I never changed a thing on my motor. It's all clutching on mine. The whole tweaking every little last bit and running it on the edge thing baffles me. People will spend $$$ on jetting, reeds, pipes, blah blah blah and now EGT gauges, and think they're going to break record speeds, when actually they may only gain 2mph WTH Just run the damn thing and enjoy it. I'd rather pull the rope and ride than try and figure out what jets I'll need in the morning and than swap them in the afternoon because it's warmer out, and then switch back at night because now it cooled off again. DUMB. If you want to go faster, buy a bigger sled for christ sakes.

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                              • 1moretoy
                                EAT SLEEP FISH
                                • May 2005
                                • 27018

                                Originally posted by waterbug1999 View Post
                                I hear what your saying... but you go by EGT's and not A/F on two strokes right?
                                Jody, go by the piston wash and plugs. You are really thinking way to hard and that is when things go wrong. You'll end up going from one extreme to the other. Baby steps my friend, baby steps.

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