2011 BIR School Season

[Tom Fuehrer]

The 2011 schedule is posted for the BIR school:

https://www.birperformance.com/skins/default/2011schedule-v8.pdf

A big change to the school this year, we are adding run groups to the school.

The higher level run group also has a pass-anywhere rule. This should free up the track quite a bit. This group is not a racing group - all passes must be a "Contract Pass" and is meant to allow a faster car to pass a slower car more easliy. Re-passing is not alllowed to prevent this group from getting into a racing mode (not allowed by event insurance).

I hope this is well received by frequent track participants.

Tom Fuehrer

[Steve]

Tom,

Does the BIR performance school realize I can race for an entire weekend on the entry fee they want for one day? Are they getting the car counts they want? Seriously, MAM is just $125 per day. Not diggin just asking.

[Cman]

You guys are pricing yourselves out of the market. there are much better priced per day opportunities at Road America or Audubon much less MAM.

The other Steve

[Tom Fuehrer]

It is kind of an apples to oranges comparison. For just a lapping day or racing there are better prices around. If you want a school, close to home where you can have an instructor (all day if you need) to show you the ropes it is a good deal.

Travelling to the more distant tracks isn't cheap (gas, hotel etc). As far as pricing themselves out of the market - I don't think so. The last classes last year were oversubscribed (more than 100 people). To that end Gary is setting up a limit to class sizes this year.

Tom

[HAULNSS]

It is kind of an apples to oranges comparison. For just a lapping day or racing there are better prices around. If you want a school, close to home where you can have an instructor (all day if you need) to show you the ropes it is a good deal.

Travelling to the more distant tracks isn't cheap (gas, hotel etc). As far as pricing themselves out of the market - I don't think so. The last classes last year were oversubscribed (more than 100 people). To that end Gary is setting up a limit to class sizes this year.

Tom

That Groupon deal was pretty popular last fall!

I like the big track at BIR and have always been impressed by the instructors. They usually offer a lot of track time for the money, too.

Randy

[Cman]

How about offering a no instructor option for less $ ?

You were only oversubscribed because the price was low (Groupan).

I'm guessing BIR rental rates for clubs went up too...since the club prices are up as well ?

[dse]

Thats really cheap. I paid 4300.00 for Bondurant plus hotel and travel. Went back the following year and paid 6k for 3 day advanced school.

[Tom Fuehrer]

Thats really cheap. I paid 4300.00 for Bondurant plus hotel and travel. Went back the following year and paid 6k for 3 day advanced school.

So you really don't want to know the BIR SCCA-Accredited 3 day racing school is less than $900 (with you own car).

Tom

[Tom Fuehrer]

How about offering a no instructor option for less $ ?

You were only oversubscribed because the price was low (Groupan).

I'm guessing BIR rental rates for clubs went up too...since the club prices are up as well ?

I'll pass the no instructor idea to Gary. I know this has been talked about before. Actually signing up through Track-Time kinda get you into this mode.

Tom

[351COBRA]

Thats really cheap. I paid 4300.00 for Bondurant plus hotel and travel. Went back the following year and paid 6k for 3 day advanced school.

Get that CMC racecar done and come out to utilize that 10k+ investment.

Brooks