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  • Killer Capri
    Bumpin it up to 10L
    • Oct 2005
    • 4968

    3800 supercharger. same as....?

    what can i use this on? if i change the inlet in the rear could it be used on a v6 mustang? with the right base of course.
    after youve lived though mine, hell is just a summer home.
  • LilRoush
    TRDon's little spoon
    • Apr 2005
    • 2214

    #2
    No.
    If you had the 94-98 V6 in mind, you need the set up off the top of the T Bird Super Coupe. Casting is different, snout and other misc junk won't line up either. You can find the Super Coupe M90s for $100 or less. Full SC 3.8L motors (similar to the Stang, but better cam, heads and forged bottom end) can be had for $700 if you look.
    ~Matt
    1998 Roush M112: Aluminum block 4.6 2V T56 1 of 1 made
    1999 SVT: Daily driver, part time track car
    1970 Mach 1: Resto-modded 351W

    2000 Roush #5004: World's FIRST M112 supercharged V6 Mustang 1 fo 106 made SOLD, but not forgotten.

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    • RNSF
      F'n your sister
      • Mar 2008
      • 10022

      #3
      The GM version has little use unless you have access to fabrication equipment. The Ford version of the M90 can be adapted to almost anything with a serpentine belt drive with a little work.
      LOL U MAD

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      • budderigs
        gogo gadget rigs
        • Apr 2005
        • 12988

        #4
        the gm 3.8 blower is much smaller then an m90 as well, I think they are m62 if I remember correctly. they only support like 4l at the max. they now use them on 4 banger civics.
        rides:
        00 Yukon xl with butt warmers.
        1986 fox body vert. that never gets driven
        thundercougarfalconbird
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DenZguEYA8s

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        • LilRoush
          TRDon's little spoon
          • Apr 2005
          • 2214

          #5
          I was thinking some used the M62, and some used the M90... wasn't the GTP an M90 on top of the 3.8L???
          ~Matt
          1998 Roush M112: Aluminum block 4.6 2V T56 1 of 1 made
          1999 SVT: Daily driver, part time track car
          1970 Mach 1: Resto-modded 351W

          2000 Roush #5004: World's FIRST M112 supercharged V6 Mustang 1 fo 106 made SOLD, but not forgotten.

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          • budderigs
            gogo gadget rigs
            • Apr 2005
            • 12988

            #6
            Originally posted by LilRoush View Post
            I was thinking some used the M62, and some used the M90... wasn't the GTP an M90 on top of the 3.8L???
            the gen 3 gtx? I think had the m90 most gtp's regals and bonnis had m62's I dont know what year but they did start putting eaton gen4? m90's on the newer ones like 2004-5ish but I dont know for sure.
            rides:
            00 Yukon xl with butt warmers.
            1986 fox body vert. that never gets driven
            thundercougarfalconbird
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DenZguEYA8s

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            • VELOCITY
              Pacer's RULE!!!
              • Feb 2003
              • 2900

              #7
              Originally posted by budderigs View Post
              the gen 3 gtx? I think had the m90 most gtp's regals and bonnis had m62's I dont know what year but they did start putting eaton gen4? m90's on the newer ones like 2004-5ish but I dont know for sure.
              Are you talking about the GXP? The GXP had a 5.3L V8 and the GTX was an SLP package that was mostly cosmetic with exhaust and Ram air.

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              • budderigs
                gogo gadget rigs
                • Apr 2005
                • 12988

                #8
                I dont know what I am talking about hence the ??? Im just trying to remember off of the top of my head and I am not about to try and back it up with facts. I am just saying most of the gm 3800 blowers are m62 and yes there are a few with the m90, but this is still probably a m62.
                rides:
                00 Yukon xl with butt warmers.
                1986 fox body vert. that never gets driven
                thundercougarfalconbird
                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DenZguEYA8s

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                • Fosters
                  Typical white person
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 16014

                  #9
                  Do those blowers fit on 3.8 fbodys? Is it the same motor but flipped around?
                  Originally posted by punch
                  SFC is a bag of stupid.
                  Capitalization is the difference between helping your uncle Jack off a horse & helping your uncle jack off a horse.

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                  • budderigs
                    gogo gadget rigs
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 12988

                    #10
                    now that I dont know for sure, the engines are about the same but I know they have different intakes and valve covers. and if it did fit, bolt on, there might not be enough room behind the engine for the throttle body and maf.
                    rides:
                    00 Yukon xl with butt warmers.
                    1986 fox body vert. that never gets driven
                    thundercougarfalconbird
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DenZguEYA8s

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                    • Killer Capri
                      Bumpin it up to 10L
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 4968

                      #11
                      Originally posted by LilRoush View Post
                      No.
                      If you had the 94-98 V6 in mind, you need the set up off the top of the T Bird Super Coupe. Casting is different, snout and other misc junk won't line up either. You can find the Super Coupe M90s for $100 or less. Full SC 3.8L motors (similar to the Stang, but better cam, heads and forged bottom end) can be had for $700 if you look.
                      you need to educate me on the 3.8. i need to make one fast. its a 2002 v6 auto. has nice headers and magnaflow exhaust. but basically your saying i need a junk supercoupe motor? any extra wiring id need to do? another thing what trans is in it and how do i make it stronger? its either make this fast or put a 302 in it.
                      after youve lived though mine, hell is just a summer home.

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                      • xjfish
                        siiiiiiick!
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 7357

                        #12
                        Redneckvert: I thought your twin blower 5.0 shenanigans were originally GM based?
                        1987 Oldsmobile Cutlass Ciera

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                        • LilRoush
                          TRDon's little spoon
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 2214

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Ford Fondler View Post
                          you need to educate me on the 3.8. i need to make one fast. its a 2002 v6 auto. has nice headers and magnaflow exhaust. but basically your saying i need a junk supercoupe motor? any extra wiring id need to do? another thing what trans is in it and how do i make it stronger? its either make this fast or put a 302 in it.
                          Two versions of the pushrod 3.8L:

                          The 94-98 is refered to as the 'single port' motor. It's more or less a smaller 5.0L as far as lay out. Super Coupe M90 works on them - being both are single port heads. Though if I were to do it, I'd just swap the SC motor get get the forged bottom end.

                          The 99-04 have better intakes and heads (two runners per cylinder - "split port"). They've got about 40 hp more than the previous 3.8L V6. 01-04 have runner controls in the lower intake that switch between the two lengths depending on your RPM. Biggest waste of time ever. Most who look for power get rid of them. The M90 doesn't work with the newer motors due to head design. However the M112 seems to be a hot item lately. Biggest down side is the over all height means you need a cowl hood.

                          How much power do you want? I'll get you the easiest way to get there once I know that.
                          ~Matt
                          1998 Roush M112: Aluminum block 4.6 2V T56 1 of 1 made
                          1999 SVT: Daily driver, part time track car
                          1970 Mach 1: Resto-modded 351W

                          2000 Roush #5004: World's FIRST M112 supercharged V6 Mustang 1 fo 106 made SOLD, but not forgotten.

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                          • Z28punk
                            TCS Regular
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 145

                            #14
                            Originally posted by budderigs View Post
                            I dont know what I am talking about hence the ??? Im just trying to remember off of the top of my head and I am not about to try and back it up with facts. I am just saying most of the gm 3800 blowers are m62 and yes there are a few with the m90, but this is still probably a m62.
                            all the series 2 and series 3 SC 3800's had the M90. I know that for sure. I think the M62 was used on the series 1 3800's.

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                            • Z28punk
                              TCS Regular
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 145

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Fosters View Post
                              Do those blowers fit on 3.8 fbodys? Is it the same motor but flipped around?
                              they would bolt onto the motor just fine, but the supercharger inlet would be facing the firewall. u need to cut up the cowl to get it to clear as well.

                              so u would need to fabricate a new inlet on the supercharger to face forward

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