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  • SVT5LITER
    Admin
    • Oct 2002
    • 44035

    Bowtie S10 peeps & experienced wrenches, ideas?

    I've talked to a couple people to get some ideas on what to look for here, and maybe they'll chime in here too because one hit me with so many ideas/options I'm sure I'll forget half of 'em (chad) , so if it's in writing I can look at it more than once

    Info: '01 S10 Blazer 4x4. Not AWD. Push button 4x. under 75k. Haven't replaced too much at all on this thing, mostly all factory everything. It's been a pretty good truck, thus far.

    Problem: It's been 'banging' or 'clunking' on downshifts like coming up to a stop sign/light. Hard down shift. Doesn't shake or anything, but it's quite audible. Sounds like either mid or front of the truck. It's done it on upshifts as well, however, it won't always do this, but it has been doing it more often, and more pronounced. I got it to clunk once today on a downshift. Additionally, it will also do it around corners, and I didn't really pay attention 'till tonight when it did it, but it for sure did it on a shift going around the corner.

    I had it up to the corner shop to get some ideas, and they thought it sounded like it was coming from the transfer case, but I don't think they even checked the fluid or anything, and I really didn't get a positive vibe in talking with the mechanic that looked at it. After talking to a couple people, the thought is why would it be anything with the transfer case if it's doing it in 2wd? I wouldn't think ball joints would cause a 'clunking' sound on shifts? Possibly U-joints? Which in 2wd would narrow it down to 2 of 'em if I'm not mistaken? Tranny fluid was original, and didn't appear burned in color or smell, just normally used for the miles (never towed with it), and was swapped out today. Still clunks, as I figured it still would. Just lookin' for more ideas to be bounced around

    TIA
    Last edited by SVT5LITER; 11-26-2009, 10:02 PM.
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  • 2 beer
    Insurance guy
    • Jul 2004
    • 21868

    #2
    pull the driveshaft and check the u-joints. Start there.
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    • RegalX
      Model A Mafia
      • Oct 2005
      • 3154

      #3
      S10's like to eat up lower ball joints and front differentials.


      To check the lower ball joints jack the front up a little and put a big ass breaker bar under the tire, pull up hard on the bar and push in then out. It's pretty easy to see movement.

      They also have a two piece drive shaft... the carrier bearing sounds like it might be it.
      Last edited by RegalX; 11-06-2009, 08:28 PM.

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      • SVT5LITER
        Admin
        • Oct 2002
        • 44035

        #4
        Originally posted by 2 beer View Post
        pull the driveshaft and check the u-joints. Start there.
        I'm hoping it's just u-joints :fingers crossed:
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        • SVT5LITER
          Admin
          • Oct 2002
          • 44035

          #5
          Originally posted by RegalX View Post
          S10's like to eat up lower ball joints and front differentials.


          To check the lower ball joints jack the front up a little and put a big ass breaker bar under the tire, pull up hard on the bar and push in then out. It's pretty easy to see movement.

          They also have a two piece drive shaft... the carrier bearing sounds like it might be it.
          Would lower ball joints make it clunk on shifts though?
          I cringe at the thought of a front diff issue, although if somethings gotta be worked on there, I'm puttin' 4.10's in the bitch, cuz it's gutless as fuck. It's not a ZR2 or anything. Just a normal S10.

          Carrier bearing, noted!
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          • RegalX
            Model A Mafia
            • Oct 2005
            • 3154

            #6
            Originally posted by SVT-5LITER View Post
            Would lower ball joints make it clunk on shifts though?
            I cringe at the thought of a front diff issue, although if somethings gotta be worked on there, I'm puttin' 4.10's in the bitch, cuz it's gutless as fuck. It's not a ZR2 or anything. Just a normal S10.

            Carrier bearing, noted!
            No the lower ball joints probably would not make the clunk noise, however I'd check them, because most S10's need new ones..... Also if it's a 4.3 the front covers and intakes like to leak like hell. Along with the oil cooler lines..... basicly S10's are a POS.

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            • SVT5LITER
              Admin
              • Oct 2002
              • 44035

              #7
              Originally posted by RegalX View Post
              No the lower ball joints probably would not make the clunk noise, however I'd check them, because most S10's need new ones..... Also if it's a 4.3 the front covers and intakes like to leak like hell. Along with the oil cooler lines..... basicly S10's are a POS.
              yeah 4.3. Dunno if there was another option for a motor in '01?
              I believe the oil cooler lines might be slightly wet, but forgot to wipe and re-check after last oil change. If this thing didn't have all the options it does, and the fact I don't really want a truck payment right now, it'd be down the road a while ago, although like I said, thus far it's been pretty good. It's still young though. Bought it when it was like 2 years old.
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              • c10
                ........
                • Dec 2006
                • 1521

                #8
                Pull the driveshaft and put a bunch of grease on the splines of the yoke. If the noise goes away replace the yoke

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                • SVT5LITER
                  Admin
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 44035

                  #9
                  Originally posted by boss_302 View Post
                  Pull the driveshaft and put a bunch of grease on the splines of the yoke. If the noise goes away replace the yoke
                  Thanks for the input
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                  • CorinthiansBlackGT
                    TCS Homer
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 4235

                    #10
                    U joints, except it only makes the noise when decelerating? That has me thinking front yoke. I had to replace mine on my S10 when I had it, same symptom. Not familiar with the rear end on the S10's never took one apart but it could be there too, less likely i would think though.

                    I did lose an upper ball joint on my S10 doing 65mph and darned near got killed in the process. If you buy it, I suggest you replace them ASAP. with them its not a matter of if they will break but when!!

                    I had a 2.2 though, so I don't really know if the same transmission is used in them as with the 4.3l ones. My 2.2 threw its front fan off, blew apart the intake, radiator, hoses ect...

                    So I tossed a 350 in it lol.

                    It could be also something as simple as the transmission cross mount being lose I dont remember if there is a bushing for the crossbar mount or not, but I do remember more than one occasion tearing the mount bolt out after putting in the 350 so that has me thinking they're not incredibly strong.

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                    • Turbohwagon
                      Fhqwhgads
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 12835

                      #11
                      If you have a U-Joint thats loose enough to clunk, that thing should be vibrating like crazy on the highway....
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                      • Fernanernie
                        Hot slut aficionado
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 50750

                        #12
                        Torsion bar mounts?
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                        • SVT5LITER
                          Admin
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 44035

                          #13
                          Originally posted by CorinthiansBlackGT View Post
                          U joints, except it only makes the noise when decelerating? That has me thinking front yoke. I had to replace mine on my S10 when I had it, same symptom. Not familiar with the rear end on the S10's never took one apart but it could be there too, less likely i would think though.

                          I did lose an upper ball joint on my S10 doing 65mph and darned near got killed in the process. If you buy it, I suggest you replace them ASAP. with them its not a matter of if they will break but when!!

                          I had a 2.2 though, so I don't really know if the same transmission is used in them as with the 4.3l ones. My 2.2 threw its front fan off, blew apart the intake, radiator, hoses ect...

                          So I tossed a 350 in it lol.

                          It could be also something as simple as the transmission cross mount being lose I dont remember if there is a bushing for the crossbar mount or not, but I do remember more than one occasion tearing the mount bolt out after putting in the 350 so that has me thinking they're not incredibly strong.
                          Clunks on down shits and up shifts whenever it feels like it, just more so on down shifts. Also got a clunk bringing it out of park into reverse on a slightly declined driveway, which is why I first started thinking U-joints. The transmission cross mount is also something I'm gonna have to look at, I do recall Chad mentioning that as one of many things to check out.
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                          • SVT5LITER
                            Admin
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 44035

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Fiveohwagon View Post
                            If you have a U-Joint thats loose enough to clunk, that thing should be vibrating like crazy on the highway....
                            Which it's not really. There was a slight vibration to it, but I wrote that off to an overdue tire rotation, so I did do that (a few weekends back), and the better half thinks that cured the vibration. Hasn't seen much for a highway trip lately. I'll have to give it a quick rip myself to see for sure.
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                            • SVT5LITER
                              Admin
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 44035

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Fernanernie View Post
                              Torsion bar mounts?
                              Just guessing, or?

                              I haven't messed with the torsion bars at all on this. Only thing I've done is put a little bigger than factory set of tires on it (which doesn't exactly help an already slow pooch).
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