stuff thinking of doing

[KRYPTO]

Looking into getting Clevlend heads for the 351W. Is it worth going that route or getting aftermarket heads? keep in mind Im going to be doing P&P on the clevlends.
Also looking into either a 406,427,454 stroker kit.
Finally (at the moment) front and mid plates. Can I use a front plate with the stock set up to remove the K member?
Just some ideas I'm working on at the moment.
Thanks for the input

[289Notch]

Cleavland heads outflow standard windsor stuff.

also there are some alum aftermarket heads as cheap as windsor stuff that will flow 400 cfm after a little work.

whether or not it's worth going that route depends on if your car is an all out race machine with the cubes+RPMs that need that flow where you will need a good block.

[Old Man]

Yes, you can get 350-400 cfm from some of the new aftermarket Cleveland heads, they run $4000.+, not cheap in my book. You need this king of flow if your building a 800+hp 8000+ RPM motor. You also need billet crank, rods and lite pistons for it to work. And don't forget the Dart block.

Do you have the pistons needed for the Cleveland heads? If your building a new motor and the money to build it for high RPM and HP go for it. If not look for the best combination you can find for the money. JMO

[Turbo302]

Chris,

Does that 351w have flat top pistons?

I think you would be very happy with a good set of aftermarket "Windsor" based heads with a decent cam. There are soo many out there, you should be able to pick some up pretty reasonably.

Like mentioned, the Cleveland heads are for high RPM setup's and you would be starting the build from scratch. It also requires a bit of machining to work as well.

You could do a Junkyard Turbo build and get a nice blow through carb.

Tim

[KRYPTO]

Well I found a set of machined Clevland heads. that flow int. .600-293cfm and exh. .600-203.5cfm, and a Holley strip dominator with N2O holes all for $700
Also should I go solid or hyd cam?


As for the stroker and block plates what you guys think.

[Max Power]

You haven't said what your goals are, but there are a lot of really good flowing windsor heads out there that would be cheaper and a lot less work. Cleveland headed motors win the Engine Masters challanges often enough, but those are borderline not street motors.

[KRYPTO]

This will be straight Drag racing. Want to go 10.01 (faster if wanted)just dont want to do license runs

[KRYPTO]

I just like to be alittle different. What are the engine masters challanges

[CAMSS30]

also there are some alum aftermarket heads as cheap as windsor stuff that will flow 400 cfm after a little work.

Cheap huh? You're a fucking idiot.

[91GTstroked]

If it were me I'd Go with a World or a Dart, trickflow high port race heads, and run E85. The 427ci stroker kit looks nice, I would go the biggest possible why not with a near bullet proof block? I just dont like the 454# as it resembles a chevy to me, LOL. They do make a 435ci stroker kit

[Pauly]

If you go go 4v heads your gonna need to build for high rpms to get them to work great. 2v heads are better for around 6000 rpm and lower. 427 is about the highest you can "safely" go. To go much higher you need siamese cylinder block. I have seen a couple articles getting these blocks into the 460 range. There are also rumors out there that World or roush is playing with milling and block forging to get the small blocks into the 500ci. How I have no idea. Just heard it from a couple engine guys I know. Like I said just rumors.

[Hack]

Maybe you already know this, but the deck heights of the Cleveland vs. the 351W are different (9.2" for the C versus 9.5" for the W IIRC), so the strip dommy intake will not fit correctly as is onto a W block. Also, there's a difference in coolant flow between the C and W that will require some work. If you want to build something different, you can certainly do it this way. CHI has intakes that fit directly and water bypass parts you will need.

I think C heads on a W would be cool and you can definitely get great power out of them. However, a conventional inline head will save some time and money.

If those heads have the original 2 piece valves - I HIGHLY recommend replacing them with a good set of 1 piece valves. Also, it's easy to over cam a Cleveland, so I recommend going to an expert for a custom cam. Mark McKeown is one good source.

[Max Power]

Cheap huh? You're a fucking idiot.

[KRYPTO]

Maybe you already know this, but the deck heights of the Cleveland vs. the 351W are different (9.2" for the C versus 9.5" for the W IIRC), so the strip dommy intake will not fit correctly as is onto a W block. Also, there's a difference in coolant flow between the C and W that will require some work. If you want to build something different, you can certainly do it this way. CHI has intakes that fit directly and water bypass parts you will need.

I think C heads on a W would be cool and you can definitely get great power out of them. However, a conventional inline head will save some time and money.

If those heads have the original 2 piece valves - I HIGHLY recommend replacing them with a good set of 1 piece valves. Also, it's easy to over cam a Cleveland, so I recommend going to an expert for a custom cam. Mark McKeown is one good source.

The heads and intake were off a Clevor so they should fit just fine and water passages should also line up.
As for the stroker I plan on filling the block

[Hack]

The heads and intake were off a Clevor so they should fit just fine and water passages should also line up.
As for the stroker I plan on filling the block

So you have spacers to fill the gaps between the intake and heads? And you have the water bypass parts? Then you are good to go for those parts.

http://www.themustangshop.com/clevor.cfm

There's a link with some info.

http://www.chiheads.com/

and CHI makes great stuff!