Spark Plugs, hotter or colder???

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  • Macs Stang
    Dale Jr.
    • Dec 2002
    • 18269

    Spark Plugs, hotter or colder???

    Ok, i am running some oem autolites right now, and I was just wondering what a hotter or colder plug would do for my car. I have heard that a hotter plug would cause the engine to run hotter, yet burn the gas more efficiently hence giving the car more power.

    I know colder plugs are usually for blower/nitrous cars so I don't think it would do anything for my car.

    Also, I am looking to replace my plugs soon anyways so I thought I would through this question out for other people that would be interested as well.

    -Tim
    O.C.R.

    I make horse powerz
  • niterydr
    in search for chassis
    • Mar 2004
    • 654

    #2
    colder plugs: They are designed to last longer than oem applications under longer durations of load (like you said, nitrous or boosted applications). This is done via better control of heat which in turn leads to less gap erosion which leads to longer life, which is always good.

    hotter plugs: These are designed for motors that do alot of idling, and operate at extended periods of time under low load, low speed applications. Running 'hotter plugs' in a 'race engine' can cause pre-ignition if the plug begins to glow due to the fact of inability to dispurse heat properly.

    The best bet if you are unsure is to run a stock range plug. Index them properly, make sure the edges are sharp, and run as wide of a gap as possible. This will get you 'max power' out of the plug.
    See us import guys aren't all that worthless , goodluck.
    -Josh

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    • Shadowgray03
      Snake Charmer
      • Apr 2003
      • 1141

      #3
      A good rule of thumb is going one step colder for every 75-100 hp over stock you go. Plugs play an important roll in cooling, they act as a conduit for channeling heat from combustion shamber into the coolant flowing through the head. If you go with plugs that are too cold the wont clean themselves at low RPM driving and will foul, if you go to hot, you risk detonation etc.
      2003 shadow gray cobra
      VT Stroked, Crower cammed and KB Topped

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      • Macs Stang
        Dale Jr.
        • Dec 2002
        • 18269

        #4
        ok with that said, then do you think i should just go with some oem plugs and then gap them a few tenth's more then factory recommended?
        O.C.R.

        I make horse powerz

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        • TRDon
          ......because trackcar
          • Mar 2004
          • 13153

          #5
          Originally posted by Macs Stang
          ok with that said, then do you think i should just go with some oem plugs and then gap them a few tenth's more then factory recommended?
          I second this question, I have wondered this for a while. I think a few tenths is pushing it but how about .10-.15? A stock ignition can suppotr that right?
          Originally posted by Hack
          Why spend all that money just to get a worn out copy of a small block Ford? It's going to be in the junk yard for a reason. I understand you have a religion called LS motors and you have faith that the LS motors break the laws of physics and work better and cost less than anything else ever built. Plus they never wear out.

          I disagree.

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          • lilstang5O
            any pony power left out there?
            • Dec 2003
            • 9204

            #6
            i got colder Autolights on mine, runs great!
            Ride:
            '97 Mustang GT a.k.a. BLACK SUNSHINE!!

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            • -D
              eat shit..eat my shit
              • Oct 2002
              • 2708

              #7
              I went colder NGK's but I intend to run nitrous soon

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              • TitaniumGT
                www.twolaneracing.com
                • Feb 2003
                • 11042

                #8
                I've heard the Autolite 103's work good on stock headed applications, I was gonna try it last year, but I ended up with aluminum heads sooner than expected.
                There worth a shot I guess.

                Nick
                1993 Titanium Cobra (1 of never)
                AFR 165s, Cobra intake, FTI cam. NX N20
                Best ET 11.2 @ 123 on the 100 shot.
                446RWHP and 585RWT
                1998 Atlantic Blue Cobra convertible(1 of 1 built)
                Vortech S-trim
                346rwhp and 314rwtrq

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                • Joe Goebbel
                  2012 370Z Nismo
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 2318

                  #9
                  Hey Tim, if you have time to read. Check this out. Say's pretty much what everyone else say's but a little more in detail.

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                  • Sleeper
                    Reasonable volume.
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 14888

                    #10
                    A Lesson In Terminology: Plug Gaps


                    Lets say the recommended gap is .055". This is read as "fifty-five thousandths" of an inch. Adding 'a few tenths' would bring this number to .255"...two hunderd and fifty-five thousandths...or just over a quarter of an inch. Not good.



                    Originally posted by TRDon
                    ...a few tenths is pushing it but how about .10-.15? A stock ignition can suppotr that right?
                    Using what we have learned in the lesson above, I am sure you meant .010"-.015"....ten to fifteen thousandths of an inch...or about the thickness of 5 sheets of that printer paper next to your computer. And yes, a stock ignition should support that. My stock plugs were gapped anywhere from .060"-.073" when I checked them before I put the new ones in. My new ones are gapped at .055".

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                    • TRDon
                      ......because trackcar
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 13153

                      #11
                      Originally posted by 99SSleeper
                      A Lesson In Terminology: Plug Gaps


                      Lets say the recommended gap is .055". This is read as "fifty-five thousandths" of an inch. Adding 'a few tenths' would bring this number to .255"...two hunderd and fifty-five thousandths...or just over a quarter of an inch. Not good.





                      Using what we have learned in the lesson above, I am sure you meant .010"-.015"....ten to fifteen thousandths of an inch...or about the thickness of 5 sheets of that printer paper next to your computer. And yes, a stock ignition should support that. My stock plugs were gapped anywhere from .060"-.073" when I checked them before I put the new ones in. My new ones are gapped at .055".

                      Totally right on this. Thousanths is definately what I meant. I kinda laugh now thinking of gaping 1/4 inch in a plug! I feel stupid Thanks for clearing this all up though, I hope no one got the wrong idea or mesleading information.
                      Originally posted by Hack
                      Why spend all that money just to get a worn out copy of a small block Ford? It's going to be in the junk yard for a reason. I understand you have a religion called LS motors and you have faith that the LS motors break the laws of physics and work better and cost less than anything else ever built. Plus they never wear out.

                      I disagree.

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                      • PHRANQUY
                        Grrrr...
                        TCS Auto-X Driver
                        • May 2004
                        • 12166

                        #12
                        i agree with the Autolite 103's. I have been told on the 2v motors though that you need to go with a colder thermostat and sometimes a tune as well though.
                        "A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station... you figure it out ..."

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                        • Macs Stang
                          Dale Jr.
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 18269

                          #13
                          so if i went with the autolite 103's would that have any effect on my tune that i just recived this weekend? hence anything to do with spark?

                          if they say to gap at .05 and i want a little better spark what should i gap the plugs to. i am kinda retarded when it comes to spark plugs.
                          O.C.R.

                          I make horse powerz

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                          • mnstang
                            Bookending TCS
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 33500

                            #14
                            if you'd want a stronger spark, you would reduce the plug gap. i think spec is about .055-.060", either way it says on that little plastic coil cover thing, if you still have that
                            i wouldn't go that large though.

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                            • Macs Stang
                              Dale Jr.
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 18269

                              #15
                              greg, so what do you think i should do? get a set of autolite 103's and gap them less then .055?

                              what would a colder plug do for my engine? increase/decrease temperatures, performance, driveability?
                              O.C.R.

                              I make horse powerz

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