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  • SDK
    #1McMoppoFan
    • Oct 2005
    • 12342

    302's

    What would be the difference between a

    Stang 302
    F 150
    Crown Vic
    Thunderbird

    I know the trucks have a week crank. Do they have the explorer heads (p) or whatever? Would any of these be a good performance motor with a budget rebuild?
  • Grenade
    TCS Homer
    • Mar 2005
    • 3659

    #2
    What years are you talking about? It makes a bit of a difference.
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    • SDK
      #1McMoppoFan
      • Oct 2005
      • 12342

      #3
      All of the above in a 1993 version. What years would be more desirable? There are some of each available at the junk yards and I was wondering if they are worth rebuilding.

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      • mnstang
        Bookending TCS
        • Oct 2002
        • 33500

        #4
        1987-92 mustang would be the best. it has a roller cam and forged pistons. it also has a better intake but that would probably be replaced anyway.
        they all have the same heads, which aren't good ones.

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        • MadMatt
          _________________
          • Jan 2004
          • 13317

          #5
          Non HOs have no valve reliefs in the pistons, crappier heads and intake.

          93s and up (and some 92s) have hypers

          I went drifting through the capitols of tin
          where men cant walk or freely talk
          and sons turn their fathers in

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          • SDK
            #1McMoppoFan
            • Oct 2005
            • 12342

            #6
            Is the f 150 engine the same as an explorer engine?

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            • mnstang
              Bookending TCS
              • Oct 2002
              • 33500

              #7
              no the explorer is all different. it has the gt40p heads, and it's own intake.

              non-HO's don't have crappier heads. my 1990 302 truck motor has E7's. it wasn't a HO, non-HO thing, it was more of a model year difference i believe.

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              • MadMatt
                _________________
                • Jan 2004
                • 13317

                #8
                Originally posted by mnstang
                no the explorer is all different. it has the gt40p heads, and it's own intake.

                non-HO's don't have crappier heads. my 1990 302 truck motor has E7's. it wasn't a HO, non-HO thing, it was more of a model year difference i believe.
                Tell that to the 87 non HO I had in a cougar with E6 heads and flattops

                I went drifting through the capitols of tin
                where men cant walk or freely talk
                and sons turn their fathers in

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                • mnstang
                  Bookending TCS
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 33500

                  #9
                  well you tell it to my truck!

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                  • worduphomefry
                    no fat chicks
                    • Nov 2002
                    • 11982

                    #10
                    can i tell it to my mom?

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                    • Notch
                      Trunkback Moostang
                      • May 2005
                      • 23574

                      #11
                      not tryin to highjack the thread, but whats the difference between a '93 mustang spec 5.0 and a 93 tbird spec 5.0 other than the intake?? also, could i use the mass air setup in my 87 gt?? jw...

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                      • MadMatt
                        _________________
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 13317

                        #12
                        Originally posted by mnstang
                        well you tell it to my truck!
                        you telling that to me? ?[/Dinero]

                        Anyways, Ford has always been a penny pinching company. I can assure you that the 87 non HO was only the same by block, crank and maybe rods. They saved some junk to use on the non performance cars even after they released those badassed E7 truck heads. (Yes, they were truck heads.)

                        Ford continued this non HO thing until 1990. In 1991 they had HOs in Tbirds and the like. Was it because they were wanting more performance? They simply ran out of garbage motors and used what they had available!


                        Originally posted by worduphomefry
                        can i tell it to my mom?
                        Yes, you may but I doubt she'll care.

                        Originally posted by 87StangGT
                        not tryin to highjack the thread, but whats the difference between a '93 mustang spec 5.0 and a 93 tbird spec 5.0 other than the intake?? also, could i use the mass air setup in my 87 gt?? jw...
                        No difference other than the intake. Yes your mass air can be used

                        I went drifting through the capitols of tin
                        where men cant walk or freely talk
                        and sons turn their fathers in

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                        • Notch
                          Trunkback Moostang
                          • May 2005
                          • 23574

                          #13
                          the tbird is an auto. would the computor and everything work in my 5 speed stang??

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                          • MadMatt
                            _________________
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 13317

                            #14
                            Is it an A9P? If so yes, it will still work on a 5 speed

                            I went drifting through the capitols of tin
                            where men cant walk or freely talk
                            and sons turn their fathers in

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                            • Notch
                              Trunkback Moostang
                              • May 2005
                              • 23574

                              #15
                              couldn't tell ya. its a 93 5.0 w/ aode. does that help?? i can't tell ya 2 much bout the tbirds, so if anyone knows, i can use the help

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