what are some of the pros and cons to each?
nos vs super charger?
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Originally posted by Video_Masterwell I will make this simple.
NOS = company name who makes nitrous oxide products
SUPERCHARGER = power adder
It comes down to what you want. With nitrous you have to fill the bottle and can run cheapo gas ehn not racing. With supercharger you have to run good gas no matter what.
I'm drunk...1998 Buick Lesabre Custom
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Originally posted by rbuzwhat are some of the pros and cons to each?
You have to take the bottle out of your car everytime it gets empty. Then freeze the bottle and then recharge it. You freeze the bottle so it will hold more nitrous.
Nitrous Pro:
Easier on the engine since it's not on 100 percent of the time and you get good power from it.
Supercharger Pro:
Once it's in and tuned, it's in and tuned. No messing with it. It's like driving a factory car.
Supercharger Con:
Hard on the engine because it put's constant pressure on the engine when you get gas pedal happy. Lowers your MPG if your in the boost alot.
Con To Both Items:
Each items will need educated decisions made about engine internals, cooling system, ignition system, fuel system, chassis stiffening, and rearend upgrades. This will cost lots of money if done right.
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I went sc because I paid a set amount got it tuned and then it was all paid for. I have no 40 bux to fill anytime. Unless you have a flip chip, your tune will be set for the nitrous with less timing and possibly more fuel to keep it safe, which will in effect, tke away from your na power numbers. But if you want more power, there is more involved tuning wise than changing a pulley for the most part. With nitrous, just change the jets and go.Originally posted by HackWhy spend all that money just to get a worn out copy of a small block Ford? It's going to be in the junk yard for a reason. I understand you have a religion called LS motors and you have faith that the LS motors break the laws of physics and work better and cost less than anything else ever built. Plus they never wear out.
I disagree.
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I've never had to freeze my Naws bottle, as long as your Naws guy has a Naws pump, I think he can get as much in there thats safe. Taking a bottle out of a car is a breeze as long as you don't mount in hard to reach place. I leave the line wrench in my hatch and can swap bottles in less than a minute.
The only con I have to NAWS is like Todd said, my bottle cost $60 to fill and even on a 100 shot, I can use it up in one night. And if you go to the track I've easily gone through over $100 in just NAWS, and still could have used more since I ran out half way through the second day.
With Nitrous I am very cautious, I run several safety and arming switches to minimize the chance of something stupid happening. But it can be a pain in the ass when one those doesn't work and you have to chase the problem down. In my case it was always either a bad relay or a bad connection. Once you get those little bugs ironed out its AWESOME when that NAWS hits!
With superchargers You'll have a higher intial investment, and your power will be there all the time, you'll never run outYou have to make sure your tune is spot on or really safe, or you could be doing a lot of head gaskets, although I'm not sure if the 4.6 is as prone to HG failure since I think they come with Cometic MLS gaskets from the factory. But its a common issue with 5.0/5.8 motors if the tune isn't right on.
For either power adder you have to watch what kinda power you are going after, it seems like the 4.6 doesn't last too long over 400-450rwhp. The rods are the weak link in the 96-04 cars, I haven't heard if they've addressed this with the 3V yet. But there are several guys that can attest this on here. If you want 500rwhp you're gonna need a built shortblock if you want it to stay together for very long. All that plus with either sytem your probally gonna want to get it tuned with any HP gains over 50-100hp.
I'm no expert on all this but I know a little bit and I was bored, so I figured I'd try to help out. I'm sure someone can chime in and add to this.
Nick1993 Titanium Cobra (1 of never)
AFR 165s, Cobra intake, FTI cam. NX N20
Best ET 11.2 @ 123 on the 100 shot.
446RWHP and 585RWT
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Vortech S-trim
346rwhp and 314rwtrq
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Originally posted by rbuzwhat are some of the pros and cons to each?
Originally posted by StangSlayerthats just naawwzztastic!
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Originally posted by 12SECNOTCHif you do a supercharger make sure you have quik fasten headbolts and lot of headgaskets in stock cause youll be doing alot of them unless you tune it perfect1993 Titanium Cobra (1 of never)
AFR 165s, Cobra intake, FTI cam. NX N20
Best ET 11.2 @ 123 on the 100 shot.
446RWHP and 585RWT
1998 Atlantic Blue Cobra convertible(1 of 1 built)
Vortech S-trim
346rwhp and 314rwtrq
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Originally posted by 12SECNOTCHif you do a supercharger make sure you have quik fasten headbolts and lot of headgaskets in stock cause youll be doing alot of them unless you tune it perfect
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Originally posted by 12SECNOTCHif you do a supercharger make sure you have quik fasten headbolts and lot of headgaskets in stock cause youll be doing alot of them unless you tune it perfectBighley Auto Body
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