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  • kineda
    Fuck your Subaru
    • Apr 2004
    • 29884

    Supply and Demand Part 56329102 x Pi

    Retail gasoline prices chugged higher today to a new peak for the year, forcing consumers to dig deeper into already-thin wallets to pay for fuel. At the same time, natural gas prices also were moving up again and have now climbed 16…


    Retail gas prices highest in a year
    Associated Press

    Updated: 10/30/2009 02:14:25 PM CDT


    Retail gasoline prices chugged higher today to a new peak for the year, forcing consumers to dig deeper into already-thin wallets to pay for fuel.

    At the same time, natural gas prices also were moving up again and have now climbed 16 percent in the past two months — just in time for furnace season to kick in.

    The worst part: Supplies of oil and gas are plentiful. In fact, storage points for gas are so jammed, producers are running out of places to put it and crude supplies are well above average levels.
    Gasoline prices are now up 17 straight days after climbing 0.4 cents overnight to $2.695 a gallon, according to auto club AAA, Wright Express and Oil Price Information Services. That is the highest price since Oct. 26, 2008.

    Prices are up 5.9 cents from a week ago and 14.8 cents from a year ago.

    The average retail price for gas was $1.686 a gallon in December. Today's price will tack about $50 a month on to the monthly gas cost for the typical customer compared with then. It comes at a time when unemployment is at a 26-year high.

    "It's a wet blanket on the consumer. It's something visible you see," said economist Ken Mayland of ClearView Economics.

    Oil prices that skyrocketed to $147 a barrel a barrel in July 2008 helped push the economy into recession to begin with, he said.

    "Can high oil prices shut down the economy? Well, clearly the answer is yes," he said.

    The reason for the increase at the pump is because oil prices have been
    on the rise, going from $65 a barrel as recently as August to $82 last week. A $17-per-barrel increase is worth about 40 cents a gallon.
    A year ago, gasoline prices were plummeting as the financial crisis and recession took hold, and demand for oil and gasoline tumbled sharply.

    Oil has been moving higher on signs that the economy is improving and a weaker dollar. The Commerce Department said Thursday that the U.S. economy grew at a 3.5 percent annual pace in the third quarter, the best showing in two years and breaking four straight quarters of declines.

    Still, supplies of gasoline, heating oil and diesel fuel also remain well above normal.

    Meanwhile, the dollar has fallen to nearly a 14-month low against the euro. Since oil is largely bought and sold in dollars, investors holding stronger currencies can buy more crude for less.

    The dollar rose today, and crude fell sharply. There was also a dour consumer spending report.

    Benchmark crude for December delivery fell $2.87 to settle at $77 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange. The contract rose $2.41 to settle at $79.87 on Thursday and has traded near $80 a barrel all week.

    Natural gas fell 7.5 cents to $4.987 per 1,000 cubic feet. Gas had been below $3 per 1,000 cubic feet as recently as last month.

    In other Nymex trading, heating oil fell 6 cents to $1.9938 a gallon. Gasoline for November delivery fell 7.6 cents to $1.9433 a gallon.

    In London, Brent crude for December delivery was down $2.23 to $75.81 on the ICE Futures exchange

    so can someone please educated me because i dont read so good. yes i am aware this is the billionth time it has been brought up...
    Originally posted by LTDpower
    You are not Philip to me, you are customer #88306-B to me.
    Originally posted by ProRauder
    I submit that more I.T. people have disposable income to waste on making cars go fast
  • sport the war
    لا أحد يعلم ما يقول هذا لكنها
    • Dec 2004
    • 17482

    #2
    Originally posted by kineda View Post
    http://www.twincities.com/news/ci_13677905?source=rss




    so can someone please educated me because i dont read so good. yes i am aware this is the billionth time it has been brought up...
    It's called.. ben dover. IB4 GTO

    Originally posted by CAMSS30
    I have my hand on the pulse of CL users after 7-8 years of dealing with them daily.

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    • Scotty07
      Meh
      • Apr 2007
      • 19655

      #3
      Fucking bunch of jewbag mother fucking greedy ass bastard dickhead cocksucking pricks.


      /thread.
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      DISCLAIMER: Everything the above poster posts is for entertainment purposes only. If you are not entertained, go **** yourself!!

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      • kineda
        Fuck your Subaru
        • Apr 2004
        • 29884

        #4
        Originally posted by sport the war View Post
        It's called.. ben dover. IB4 GTO
        i am not dismissing the fact we have to take it, i am simply asking why when the supply is so high they are jacking up the price? or is this all in relation to the falling dollar?
        Originally posted by LTDpower
        You are not Philip to me, you are customer #88306-B to me.
        Originally posted by ProRauder
        I submit that more I.T. people have disposable income to waste on making cars go fast

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        • SDK
          #1McMoppoFan
          • Oct 2005
          • 12342

          #5
          There are positive signs that the economy is strengthening. Consumer confidence and spending will be followed by lowered unemployment creating an upward spiral. Then when people feel the economy is strong ZING they are gonna fuck us with $8 gas.

          What you are seeing is speculation of the upward trend.

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          • OrangeCrush 86
            /yawn
            • Nov 2005
            • 10085

            #6
            A weak dollar + inflation, along with a dash of market distortions.

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            • sport the war
              لا أحد يعلم ما يقول هذا لكنها
              • Dec 2004
              • 17482

              #7
              Originally posted by kineda View Post
              i am not dismissing the fact we have to take it, i am simply asking why when the supply is so high they are jacking up the price? or is this all in relation to the falling dollar?
              what you're witnessing is the fleecing of america. big oil seen where we're weak and had a chance to do some consumer marketing with $3+ gas. we paid it. now they have to get back to that number to keep the record profits rolling.

              The dollar is always going to drop as long as we've gone away from the gold standard. look what gold's worth.. think we should have stayed there? I do. The market is fucked because you need to pay for services and products.. if you're money isn't worth shit it's called inflation.. we're in a downward spiral.

              Originally posted by CAMSS30
              I have my hand on the pulse of CL users after 7-8 years of dealing with them daily.

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              • SFC
                I know drama
                • Jun 2004
                • 24976

                #8
                High gas prices help the economy bounce back! DUH!
                You stay classy Chet Beireis
                Originally posted by Paul Revere
                I can't wait for that ****** to take all the credit


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                • Stormwalker
                  ggggggggggggggggggggggggg ggggg
                  Moderator
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 21617

                  #9
                  Originally posted by sport the war View Post
                  what you're witnessing is the fleecing of america. big oil seen where we're weak and had a chance to do some consumer marketing with $3+ gas. we paid it. now they have to get back to that number to keep the record profits rolling.
                  Originally posted by Nick
                  The choice is easy.

                  Taxwalker.

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                  • sport the war
                    لا أحد يعلم ما يقول هذا لكنها
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 17482

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Stormwalker View Post
                    oh that's right.. our businesses are doing great due to the high gas prices.. that's right.. my bad.

                    wallstreet fucking wallstreet. it's beautiful.

                    Originally posted by CAMSS30
                    I have my hand on the pulse of CL users after 7-8 years of dealing with them daily.

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                    • Stormwalker
                      ggggggggggggggggggggggggg ggggg
                      Moderator
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 21617

                      #11
                      Originally posted by sport the war View Post
                      oh that's right.. our businesses are doing great due to the high gas prices.. that's right.. my bad.

                      wallstreet fucking wallstreet. it's beautiful.
                      If gas prices rose to $3/gal and "we paid it", then why didn't "big oil" just keep the product at that price point?
                      Originally posted by Nick
                      The choice is easy.

                      Taxwalker.

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                      • SDK
                        #1McMoppoFan
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 12342

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Stormwalker View Post
                        If gas prices rose to $3/gal and "we paid it", then why didn't "big oil" just keep the product at that price point?

                        In a week attempt to keep a republican in office.

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                        • Stormwalker
                          ggggggggggggggggggggggggg ggggg
                          Moderator
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 21617

                          #13
                          Originally posted by SDK View Post
                          In a week attempt to keep a republican in office.
                          Now if I remember correctly, gas prices dipped below $3/gal for quite a bit longer than just a week.
                          Originally posted by Nick
                          The choice is easy.

                          Taxwalker.

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                          • SDK
                            #1McMoppoFan
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 12342

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Stormwalker View Post
                            Now if I remember correctly, gas prices dipped below $3/gal for quite a bit longer than just a week.
                            No they did not.


                            I have a week back. Form an injury about a week back

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                            • Fosters
                              Typical white person
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 16014

                              #15
                              I'd say you need to find a better article, and you need to read/highlight the whole article...

                              Exhibit A:

                              Prices are up 5.9 cents from a week ago and 14.8 cents from a year ago.


                              Looks a little more than 14.8 cents to me.

                              Exhibit B:
                              The average retail price for gas was $1.686 a gallon in December. Today's price will tack about $50 a month on to the monthly gas cost for the typical customer compared with then. It comes at a time when unemployment is at a 26-year high.
                              Very nice of them to pick the lowest spot on the graph above to compare to... Note gasoline drops almost every year around the holiday season:



                              God forbid they compare to this time last year. But I guess when you want to bitch about something you can spin statistics whatever way you want to, to make a point. At 50 bucks claimed difference, and $1/gal difference (compared to december of last year) - if they were to indeed try and point out the difference from this time last year - that would mean their typical someone is using 50 gallons of gas per month. At the more realistic difference of 50c per gallon, that would mean someone's using ~100 gallons per month. That'd mean almost everyone is driving V10 excursions... At their 'claimed' 14c per gallon difference, their typical someone would have to be using 357 gallons of gas per month This goes to show how flawed their comparisson with december is as opposed to what it should be - comparisson to last year (by either the correct figure or their fictional 14.8c/gal)

                              So if we compare to this time last year, your gasoline bill went up 25 dollars per month (50 gallons used, 50c difference in price). 50c difference in price is roughly ~23% increase over the previous year (0.5/2.20). Keep in mind your dollars are now worth a bit less than this time last year, as the article rightfully acknowledges; add in the fact that crude oil is now more expensive and faster rising than last year (also something the article points out), and the difference is not all that hard to believe.

                              In conclusion, if you're gonna point out that local/regional supplies are high, and claim that we're getting ripped off because of high prices at the pump, or that supply and demand doesn't really work/apply, but meanwhile brush off the declining value of the dollar and the fact the crude oil went up, you're a fucking moron. Maybe you should try one of those boycotts of gasoline for a day and then use that as argument that it didn't work to bring the prices down...
                              Last edited by Fosters; 10-30-2009, 05:13 PM.
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