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  • OrangeCrush 86
    /yawn
    • Nov 2005
    • 10085

    Where is the law about front collector plates

    I just got my collector plates from the DVS. And on that site it says you only need one plate on the car. However, I can not find the law that says that anywhere! Anyone know where the actual law is so when I get pulled over in champlin I can show them?

    Here is where I was looking:
    http://www.dps.state.mn.us/DVS/PlBro...PlateFrame.htm then click collector plates to the left. If you scroll through that it does reference a law 168.xx whatever, but it doesn't say anything about plate placement there.
  • 68GTO
    The Coach Z
    • Sep 2003
    • 15772

    #2
    It's called the internet...



    Subd. 1g. Original plates. A vehicle registered pursuant to subdivision 1a, 1b, 1c or 1d may in lieu of being issued number plates by the registrar display original Minnesota number plates issued in the same year as the model year of the car on which they are displayed. The number of the original plates must be provided to the registrar. The original plates must be in good condition and shall be used in pairs one to be displayed in the front of the car and one in the rear, except for an original plate issued in 1911, 1944, 1945, or 1946 which may be used singly and displayed at the rear of the vehicle. Original Minnesota number plates shall not be used if the number on the original plate is identical to a number on any current street rod plate or any other plate in a numbering system used by the registrar. Any person currently using plates issued pursuant to subdivision 1a, 1b, 1c or 1d shall return those plates to the registrar before substituting original plates. The registrar may charge a fee for registering the number on original plates.
    Captain Obvious reporting for duty.
    • Bullet point mafia
    There = a place
    Their = belonging to someone, possessive
    They're = contraction of they + are

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    • OrangeCrush 86
      /yawn
      • Nov 2005
      • 10085

      #3
      So if you have collector plates you still need to run one in the front and back, dammit.

      But, that section is about using original plates.

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      • OrangeCrush 86
        /yawn
        • Nov 2005
        • 10085

        #4
        This is the section on Collector class:
        Subd. 1c. Collector's vehicle, collector plate. (a) The owner of any motor vehicle, including
        any truck, (1) that is (i) at least 20 model years old, or (ii) at least ten model years old and with
        a body or engine style of which not more than 500 were manufactured in or imported into the
        United States in any model year, (2) that was manufactured after 1935, and (3) that is owned
        and operated solely as a collector's vehicle, shall list the vehicle for taxation and registration as
        provided in paragraph (b).
        (b) The owner shall execute an affidavit stating (1) the name and address of the person from
        whom purchased and of the new owner, (2) the make of the motor vehicle, (3) the year and number
        of the model, (4) the manufacturer's identification number, (5) in the case of a vehicle described in
        paragraph (a), clause (1)(ii), that the vehicle has a body or engine style of which not more than 500
        were manufactured or imported into the United States in any model year, and (6) that the vehicle
        is owned and operated solely as a collector's item and not for general transportation purposes.
        (c) The owner shall provide a statement of the manufacturer or importer regarding the
        number of vehicles manufactured or imported during the model year.
        (d) The owner shall also prove that the owner also has one or more vehicles with regular
        license plates.
        If the registrar is satisfied that the affidavit is true and correct and the owner pays a $25 tax, the
        registrar shall list the vehicle for taxation and registration and shall issue a single number plate.
        (e) The number plate issued shall bear the inscription "Collector," "Minnesota," and
        the registration number or other combination of characters authorized under section 168.12,
        subdivision 2a , but no date. The number plate is valid without renewal as long as the vehicle
        is in existence. The registrar has the power to revoke the plate for failure to comply with this
        subdivision.

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        • Max Power
          PierreGustaveToutantBeaur egard
          • Apr 2004
          • 13086

          #5
          Kurt, collector plates and original plates are not the same thing.

          Collector plates are supposed to be used only to and from car shows and the like. While most cops won't enforce it if you are out cruising, it's just one more thing they can pull you over on.

          I returned mine. Too restrictive.

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          • 68GTO
            The Coach Z
            • Sep 2003
            • 15772

            #6
            Originally posted by Max Power View Post
            Kurt, collector plates and original plates are not the same thing.

            Collector plates are supposed to be used only to and from car shows and the like. While most cops won't enforce it if you are out cruising, it's just one more thing they can pull you over on.

            I returned mine. Too restrictive.
            Yeah, Max, I saw that after I posted. I was thinking about one of my 68s with original plates and answered there. Still, I believe in MN you must display two plates...
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            • Bullet point mafia
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            • OrangeCrush 86
              /yawn
              • Nov 2005
              • 10085

              #7
              Finally found it:
              169.79 VEHICLE REGISTRATION; DISPLAYING LICENSE PLATE

              Subd. 4. Collector's vehicle. If the vehicle is (1) a collector's vehicle with a pioneer, classic
              car, collector, or street rod license; (2) a vehicle that meets the requirements of a pioneer, classic,
              or street rod vehicle except that the vehicle is used for general transportation purposes; or (3) a
              vehicle that is of model year 1972 or earlier, not registered under section 168.10, subdivision 1c,
              and is used for general transportation purposes, one plate must be displayed on the rear of the
              vehicle, or one plate on the front and one on the rear, at the discretion of the owner.

              I don't get the wording though, Kurt, maybe you can help me? lol Does that mean it has to be used for general transportation? or wtf?

              I think it has to be earlier than 1972 to only have a rear plate. fack.
              Last edited by OrangeCrush 86; 09-15-2007, 11:32 AM.

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              • Video_Master
                Kickin it Hybrid Style
                • Jun 2003
                • 10524

                #8
                If you have collector plates you can't use the vehicle for general transportation. You are limited to how much you can drive the vehicle.

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                • OrangeCrush 86
                  /yawn
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 10085

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Video_Master View Post
                  If you have collector plates you can't use the vehicle for general transportation. You are limited to how much you can drive the vehicle.
                  Yea, but it was only 45 bucks. And I am broke and probably won't even drive the car for the next few years. So when I have some money again I will just change back. It is just so I can drive it here and there with out having to goto the dmv the every year.

                  Besides, if I get pulled over I will just tell them I am going to a car show out of state.

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                  • 68GTO
                    The Coach Z
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 15772

                    #10
                    Originally posted by OrangeCrush 86 View Post
                    Finally found it:
                    169.79 VEHICLE REGISTRATION; DISPLAYING LICENSE PLATE

                    Subd. 4. Collector's vehicle. If the vehicle is (1) a collector's vehicle with a pioneer, classic
                    car, collector, or street rod license; (2) a vehicle that meets the requirements of a pioneer, classic,
                    or street rod vehicle except that the vehicle is used for general transportation purposes; or (3) a
                    vehicle that is of model year 1972 or earlier, not registered under section 168.10, subdivision 1c,
                    and is used for general transportation purposes, one plate must be displayed on the rear of the
                    vehicle, or one plate on the front and one on the rear, at the discretion of the owner.

                    I don't get the wording though, Kurt, maybe you can help me? lol Does that mean it has to be used for general transportation? or wtf?

                    I think it has to be earlier than 1972 to only have a rear plate. fack.
                    Andrew, it appears to say:
                    If you register as a classic car used as general transportation OR if the vehicle is older than 1972 and used for general transportation without being registered as a classic (statute above), then you can use a single plate.
                    Captain Obvious reporting for duty.
                    • Bullet point mafia
                    There = a place
                    Their = belonging to someone, possessive
                    They're = contraction of they + are

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                    • 68GTO
                      The Coach Z
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 15772

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Video_Master View Post
                      If you have collector plates you can't use the vehicle for general transportation. You are limited to how much you can drive the vehicle.
                      This is true. However, how are they going to monitor how much you drive it? How can they prove it?
                      Captain Obvious reporting for duty.
                      • Bullet point mafia
                      There = a place
                      Their = belonging to someone, possessive
                      They're = contraction of they + are

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                      • Nifty
                        Hippies aren't really people..
                        • May 2003
                        • 5685

                        #12
                        Originally posted by OrangeCrush 86 View Post
                        Yea, but it was only 45 bucks. And I am broke and probably won't even drive the car for the next few years. So when I have some money again I will just change back. It is just so I can drive it here and there with out having to goto the dmv the every year.

                        Besides, if I get pulled over I will just tell them I am going to a car show out of state.
                        Make sure you look into collectors insurance if you are looking to save money. My Father in law just put collector plates/insurance on his 65 Monaco and his insurance is $120 for the whole year. I think there are mileage restrictions but if you aren't going to drive it that much, why pay more?
                        "Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves."
                        - Ronald Reagan

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                        • Max Power
                          PierreGustaveToutantBeaur egard
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 13086

                          #13
                          Originally posted by OrangeCrush 86 View Post

                          Besides, if I get pulled over I will just tell them I am going to a car show out of state.
                          Sure. Porky's, Saturday night, midnight.

                          Good luck.

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                          • OrangeCrush 86
                            /yawn
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 10085

                            #14
                            Originally posted by 68GTO View Post
                            Andrew, it appears to say:
                            If you register as a classic car used as general transportation OR if the vehicle is older than 1972 and used for general transportation without being registered as a classic (statute above), then you can use a single plate.
                            I have re-read it a few times now and I think you are right. It also appears there could be a loop hole here a lot of us could use (at least soon with all the fox bodies on here). If you car qualifies as a collector, but is used as general transportation (i.e. you pay for a regular plate) it looks legal to only have it displayed on the rear of the vehicle.

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                            • OrangeCrush 86
                              /yawn
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 10085

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Max Power View Post
                              Sure. Porky's, Saturday night, midnight.

                              Good luck.
                              I haven't been there this year. And I don't know any one so I never stay lol.

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