Profanity on Broadcast TV

[theduckylittle]

After the "fucking" comment made by U2 at the Grammy awards there has been a plethora of profain words prolifically spreading across broadcast television. I just watched a CNN peice about it and they reported a Senator is moving to enforce increasingly strict decency laws.

What does everyone here think?

To give a platform, I'll give my own opinion, broadcasters should be restricted from using the "7 words you can't say on television." While Carlin's skit is hilarious on the subject, I think kids (I'm talking elementary school kiddies) don't understand the impact of the things that they say. They will say them to get attention and to get what they want. Giving them a repituaire to do just that seems irresponsible. Parents can only do so much and I think that the FREE televisions stations should be held responsible for their content.

If broadcasters won't do it themselves then government action seems the appropriate course.

-Duck

PS: "Broadcast" does not include Cable television. Cable networks can do whatever the fawk they want.

[Sleeper]

LOL...Carlin I seen that one!


Cant remember more than 5 of them though...

[MetallicPony]

t.v. language has been so lax latley, they might as well start dropping f-bombs...within reason though.

[theduckylittle]

Originally posted by MetallicPony
t.v. language has been so lax latley, they might as well start dropping f-bombs...within reason though.

They HAVE been dropping the F-bomb. It's been rediculous. Even more me who uses tons of profanity in everyday conversation.

-Duck

[punch]

Cable is getting really bad. Not that I carea or anything...

Does anyone watch the Sheild? That show should be on the pay networks but it's not. It's a great show, but they get away with everything they can on cable.

I don't really care what the broadcast networks do, they let the envlope get pushed so much as it is they might as well not stop now. Anyone watch Will and Grace? That show gets away with a lot of bad stuff.

When I have kids, I'm getting rid of cable.

[Roast'em]

Originally posted by punch
I don't really care what the broadcast networks do, they let the envlope get pushed so much as it is they might as well not stop now. Anyone watch Will and Grace? That show gets away with a lot of bad stuff.

but god forbid you censor that show!! or the entire community will be offended.

TV should be banned. End of story

[Sweet35th]

The more we rely on the media performing parenting tasks for us as a society, the more we leave our children out in the open to pick up things that are morally wrong.

Say mass media bans the 7 words. Heck even words such as "damn" and "crap" (words which many family still find morally offensive). Eliminating/transferring the responsibility for parents to teach their children what kind of language is appropriate and not. Children are still exposed to foul language everyday. In public, grocery store, mall, friends at school ect ect. And now because of the transference of responsibility for teaching these children what is appropriate and what is not, they now have picked up such terms and will thus use them.

What is next? Should we require the makers of child diapers to include an educational video on toilet training, to train toddlers how to use the toilet?

If your child has been in a walker for months, but still can’t walk, is Gerber to blame??

It has been proven 100 times over by more studies than I can count, that Parents are still the #1 influential force in a child’s life.
THE MORE RESPONSIBILITY WE ALLOW PARENTS TO PASS OFF ONTO SOMEONE ELSE, THE MORE WE ALLOW THIS COUNTRIES CHILDREN TO BE MANIPULATED BY OUTSIDE FORCES. Plain and simple.

I guess a very good example of my point would be the fact that home schooled children have significantly higher scores in all outcome based educational test, than children in both public AND private schools.

[theduckylittle]

But what kind of parents can constantly watch their children? None.

What sort of kid will not be intriguied by things their parents said were bad? None. (At least none that I've ever met.)

Cable can do what it will, at least you can BLOCK cable channels, it's harder to block individual shows. And some of the profain shit I've seen lately still had a "TV PG" rating.

I've been around small kiddies my entire life. It's one of those happenstance things that happens when you're the oldest of a group of grandchildren. So I've always been the "free" babysitter for relatives and therefore have had some "amature" parenting experiences. Saying it's all up to the parents is a little niave. Kids are exactly like adults with significantly less knowledge, inhibition, and responsibility. They all have unique personalities and quirks, some for the good and some for the bad. Some like to be a little rebellious and do exactly the opposite of everything they're told. It's not the parents fault, they just got a kid who likes to do everything that's the opposite that they're told.

The latter is the ones I worry about, because eventually they start learning responsibility and start getting some inhibitions. Which allows them to understand what they're doing to a greater extend. A three year old will not understand the impact of telling a stranger, "You're a fucking whore, why don't you suck my cock?"

They will certianly get a reaction for saying that statment and they'll enjoy getting the attention, but they don't know what any of those words mean. Most young children don't even attach MEANING to words, they attach function and objects to words. (Meaning comes with the development of language, which is a waays away.)

Corporations need to be held responsible for their content and it's effects.

-Duck

[theduckylittle]

Using standardized tests is also a giant crock of shit.

Standardized Tests don't get you jobs. Standardized Tests don't even guarentee you get into a good school. Shit, you really don't even know what those tests usually mean. Some people who are genuine geniuses get shitty scores and people (like myself) who half-ass everything get pretty phenomenol scores. And that's coming from a public-schools-or-die graduate.

Futhermore, your standard is flawed. Using home school children are generally kids who did poorly in public schools because they were geeks who never learned to face up to their social inadequacies. Furthermore, there are a lot of people from public shcools who take those tests. More people with less aptitude will take the test just to get the requirement out of the way. They won't study for it, they don't care about it, they want their 26 so that they can get into the local college. Very few homeschooled children will have the same low standard.

So what you have is a computer geek with no social skills and their parents harping on them to get a good score on a test. Big fucking surprise they did well. What did the geek do after the test? Went home and mowed the parents lawn. What did the real people do? Go to Perkins, catch a movie, sleep, party later that night, do SOMETHING.

So it is a very poor example of your point, Casey.

-Duck

Where's the "Fanning the flames Emoticon" ?!?

[Dave90GT]

"I am King Shit of Fuck Mountain, why do you fuck with me Satan?"

-Mr.Show "Swearing to God"

[The Malibu]

Originally posted by theduckylittle
Some people who are genuine geniuses get shitty scores and people (like myself) who half-ass everything get pretty phenomenol scores.

BULLSHIT, these tests are simple measures of basic skills and knowledge. Geniuses will score well, period. If you yourself score fairly well on them, then you retain some intellect. What level of effort you usually apply to learning is a worse predictor than the tests you claim to hate based on their inaccuracy as a measuring device.

Originally posted by theduckylittle
home school children are generally kids who did poorly in public schools because they were geeks who never learned to face up to their social inadequacies.

I would venture that most are home-schooled because their parents believe they can do a better job than someone else.

If we're all going to generalize, I think I agree with the..."Well turn it off if you don't like it!" crowd. T.V. is not a babysitter and it seems like a lot of parents are only mad because they wish for a situation in which they could totally forget about their kids. Obviously, not all parents can be with their children all the time, but there are ways of controlling what they watch.

P.S. It seems this thread is dangerously close to the Nature vs. Nurture zone.

[Dave90GT]

Originally posted by The Malibu

P.S. It seems this thread is dangerously close to the Nature vs. Nurture zone. [/B]

I think it's more like.........:sux:

[The Malibu]

HA!

Originally posted by Dave90GT
I think it's more like.........:sux:

Agreed

[VELOCITY]

TV is not supposed to be a babysitter. I wish parents would spend more time with there kids. There are more constructive things to do other than watch TV and play video games.

[Nifty]

I look at it like this. MOST people are complete idiots. Thier kids might as well too.

Seriously....all too many people just sit thier kids in front of the t.v. hoping that they won't actually have to interact with thier kids. I mean, God forbid that to happen.