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  • HerrKooled
    TCS Homer
    • Nov 2005
    • 12060

    National Guard to guard borders?

    bush is to announce in his speech if it will be so. it's about time we militirize the borders, and i think it's ok for the federal use of state troops in situations like this in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California.
    Last edited by HerrKooled; 05-13-2006, 09:05 PM.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfpyB6AC9ak
  • RayK
    No mods............
    • Feb 2004
    • 6396

    #2
    Originally posted by HerrKooled
    bush is to announce in his speech if it will be so. it's about time we militirize the borders, and i think it's ok for the federal use of state troops in situations like this in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California.
    There are full-time and part-time National Guard. I think it's a hardship for the part-time to do this. Not sure the Army is the best either. It will make the news when illegal's get shot trying to cross the border.

    Bush should just build the fence and double or triple the border patrol.
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    • CorinthiansBlackGT
      TCS Homer
      • Mar 2004
      • 4235

      #3
      while all thats being built and hiring taking place nation guard should guard the border.

      about time.. just hope they dont stick them out in BFE guarding lawn gnomes or something.

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      • Matt87GTA
        The Honey Badger
        • Sep 2003
        • 2011

        #4
        I say, if you are going to put us there, be prepared to deal with what we do. And that is kill. If you want some sort of police containment action, get yourself some police officers or the like to do it. If you want zero tolerance and dead illegals, send us. Your choice. I could care less... That's a gravy assignment compared to this shithole.
        If you are able, save them a place inside of you and save one backward glance when you are leaving for the places they can no longer go. Be not ashamed to say you loved them, though you may or may not have always. Take what they have left and what they have taught you with their dying and keep it with your own. And in that time when men decide and feel safe to call the war insane, take one moment to embrace those gentle heroes you left behind.

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        • MadMatt
          _________________
          • Jan 2004
          • 13317

          #5
          Hmm, I'd go with zero tolerance. One thing troubles me.. If we're willing to gun them down at the gates why are we allowing all those illegals that are here now to stay?

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          • NAZISALEEN
            Afro Samurai
            • Sep 2004
            • 12235

            #6
            Originally posted by MadMatt5oh
            Hmm, I'd go with zero tolerance. One thing troubles me.. If we're willing to gun them down at the gates why are we allowing all those illegals that are here now to stay?
            If we gun them down at the border does that mean we should be able to gun them down anywhere??

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            • SVT5LITER
              Admin
              • Oct 2002
              • 44035

              #7
              Originally posted by Matt87GTA
              I say, if you are going to put us there, be prepared to deal with what we do. And that is kill. If you want some sort of police containment action, get yourself some police officers or the like to do it. If you want zero tolerance and dead illegals, send us. Your choice. I could care less... That's a gravy assignment compared to this shithole.
              I'm prepared... have at 'er my friend
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              • Mullet Tuner
                TCS Homer
                • Apr 2004
                • 15906

                #8
                Originally posted by nazisaleen
                If we gun them down at the border does that mean we should be able to gun them down anywhere??
                hopefully
                Originally posted by Gerald
                black z is a TCS fgt he should sell that z and go buy a blown 87 gt so he could be a true TCS fgt

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                • 68GTO
                  The Coach Z
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 15772

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Matt87GTA
                  I say, if you are going to put us there, be prepared to deal with what we do. And that is kill. If you want some sort of police containment action, get yourself some police officers or the like to do it. If you want zero tolerance and dead illegals, send us. Your choice. I could care less... That's a gravy assignment compared to this shithole.
                  Great to hear from you, man! Keep safe and come home soon. Any idea when? I agree with your post too. Military's job = wreck stuff, kill people. Police contain and prosecute. Let's have an actual border and make our rules serious!
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                  • Notch
                    Trunkback Moostang
                    • May 2005
                    • 23574

                    #10
                    Originally posted by MadMatt5oh
                    Hmm, I'd go with zero tolerance. One thing troubles me.. If we're willing to gun them down at the gates why are we allowing all those illegals that are here now to stay?

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                    • HerrKooled
                      TCS Homer
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 12060

                      #11
                      Originally posted by RayK
                      There are full-time and part-time National Guard. I think it's a hardship for the part-time to do this. Not sure the Army is the best either. It will make the news when illegal's get shot trying to cross the border.

                      Bush should just build the fence and double or triple the border patrol.
                      after serving in the ranks of the Infanty in the cities of Iraq and the mountains of Afghanistan i can tell you it would be done right fist down even though i can garuntee they will use MP's, besides it's too much paperwork if you murder some nobody, trust me.

                      NG is a component of the Army as well as the reserves. the reserves are federal and the NG state.

                      people wouldn't be killed like you think with MP's on the border.
                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfpyB6AC9ak

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                      • RayK
                        No mods............
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 6396

                        #12
                        Originally posted by HerrKooled
                        after serving in the ranks of the Infanty in the cities of Iraq and the mountains of Afghanistan i can tell you it would be done right fist down even though i can garuntee they will use MP's, besides it's too much paperwork if you murder some nobody, trust me.

                        NG is a component of the Army as well as the reserves. the reserves are federal and the NG state.

                        people wouldn't be killed like you think with MP's on the border.
                        I should have been more careful with my statement. I didn't mean it would be freefire on illegals, just someone could get shot, especially if the coyotes leading the illegals pop a few in the direction of our guys. If that happened by the military, I think we would have some rioting in population centers like LA that have a large hispanic population. That is a risk that doesn't need to be taken imo. If the Border Patrol fires back, I think that's more acceptable and understood then the military.

                        My other point was I don't think ARNG should have to bear the financial hardship of leaving their civilian jobs to guard the border. Let the fed budget and fund the appropriate level of protection. Instead, I'm reading about tax cuts. Give me break.

                        Thanks for the service you and Matt are doing / have done for our nation.
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                        • RayK
                          No mods............
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 6396

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Matt87GTA
                          I say, if you are going to put us there, be prepared to deal with what we do. And that is kill. If you want some sort of police containment action, get yourself some police officers or the like to do it. If you want zero tolerance and dead illegals, send us. Your choice. I could care less... That's a gravy assignment compared to this shithole.
                          Hey Matt. Thanks and I'd be happy if you were on our border instead of over there. I'll buy you a cold one when you get back.

                          Take care.
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                          • HerrKooled
                            TCS Homer
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 12060

                            #14
                            Originally posted by RayK

                            My other point was I don't think ARNG should have to bear the financial hardship of leaving their civilian jobs to guard the border. Let the fed budget and fund the appropriate level of protection. Instead, I'm reading about tax cuts. Give me break.

                            Thanks for the service you and Matt are doing / have done for our nation.
                            i agree with you, although i don't mind being deployed as under federal law one cannot be fired from work becuase of deployment, and 80% of companies continue to pay up to six months regular wage even though their worker is deployed within the military, so it's like your getting paid by the government and you job even though your not working.

                            what you also mention about latino riots, it could be so although i feel that there is a "silent" invasion on our country with the illegals migrating in full strength. there are more illegals in this country then there are people in the state of minnesota, and they take our welfare but don't pay taxes draining our system, and like wordup suggested that we militirize untill the border control can be tripled in size, and walls built. as a matter a fact, i would voulunteer for that deployment if they let riflemen and elite troops in the "program" if it ever becomes a reality.

                            no problem dude, i love what i do.
                            Last edited by HerrKooled; 05-14-2006, 05:48 PM.
                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfpyB6AC9ak

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                            • HerrKooled
                              TCS Homer
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 12060

                              #15
                              update: bush would like to see 6000 gaurdsmen at the border.

                              are there even that many in country? :idiot:
                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfpyB6AC9ak

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