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  • HAULNSS
    Northstar Detail Supply
    • May 2003
    • 11526

    Daycare unions

    Dayton order has forces mustering at Capitol


    Democratic Gov. Mark Dayton signed an executive order on Tuesday, Nov. 15 calling for an election among child care providers relating to unionization. But the order may first have a date in court.
    The governor’s action comes after months of debate at the State Capitol concerning daycare unionization, something governors in other states have ordered solely by executive order, Dayton explained.
    But given a dispute exists among Minnesota day care providers over the merits of unionization, “the fairest way, the American way, resolve that dispute with election,” Dayton said.
    Ballots would be sent by the Bureau of Mediation Service in December to affected providers — licensed, registered, subsidized, family care providers — with the idea election results would be tabulated on Dec. 21.
    The administration estimates that between 4,500 and 5,300 day care providers in the Minnesota would be included in the vote.
    No one will be forced to join a union, Dayton said. No one in a non-unionized day care would be forced to pay union dues, he said.
    What It Means

    Pro union day care activist, such as Lisa Thompson, a St. Paul day care provider and Child Care Providers Together spokeswoman, views unionization as a means of providing stability to a struggling industry.
    By banning together, day care providers will be better able to negotiate with government officials on the rules and regulations imposed on them — regulations that impact costs, she said.
    Unionization will not mean parents will be paying higher costs for child care, Thompson argued.
    “We are in control of our rates now. And we will be in control of our rates after we have a union,” she said, speaking outside the Governor’s Office.
    Other Views

    But other day care providers view things differently.
    Pat Gentz, of Pat’s Precious People Family Child Care in Lakeville, expressed disappointment over Dayton’s executive order.
    Gentz believes holding the election is unfair, because only those day care providers accepting state subsidies would be allowed to vote.
    Yet the issues that a daycare union would be negotiating, assuming a union is formed, would affect all of Minnesota’s 11,000 day care providers, she said.
    If there’s going to be a ballot, then all day care providers, not just a subset, should be included in the vote, said Gentz, who has testified at the State Capitol.
    “That’s the only fair way,” she said.

    Gentz and several other day care providers opposed to a vote met with Dayton last Thursday evening to discuss the issue. She believed Dayton had already made up his mind by then.
    “I’m just so disappointed,” Gentz said of the governor’s action.
    Dayton said he would respect the results of the election whatever the outcome.
    Still, the governor has long believed day care providers are overworked and underpaid — a belief that goes back to when his sons were in day care in Minneapolis, he said.
    “I see advantages to that,” he said of unionization. “I’m in favor of unions, generally,” Dayton said.

    Illegal Move, GOP Says

    Republican legislative leaders argue that Dayton’s executive order is illegal.
    “It’s just another ‘Merry Christmas’ gift from our governor which will create more government intrusion in the lives of our independent businesses,” said Sen. Mike Parry, R-Waseca, Senate State Government Innovations and Veterans Committee chairman.
    Senate Health and Human Services Committee Chairman David Hann, R-Edina, said Dayton is acting illegally.
    “I think the real question for us is what do you do with a governor who won’t follow the law,” said Hann, who has found other Dayton actions in recent days nettlesome.
    Hann said Senate Republicans are currently conferring with legal counsel.
    The chairman argues that the state mediation service, for one thing, has no jurisdiction to be holding an election for a group of people who are not state employees.
    Both Hann and Perry, the latter a 1st Congressional District candidate, said that Republicans would take legal actions to halt the election.
    Hann depicted the legal battle as a struggle between Dayton and the Legislature.
    Other Points

    For his part, Dayton believes he has the necessary authority to call an election.
    “We’re proceeding with the belief we do have that authority,” he said.
    In 13 other states governors ordered the formation of day care unions without any vote, Dayton explained.
    A simple majority vote will decided whether daycare providers can unionize — union officials believe the vote will be successful.
    If a union is created, state commissioners will be required to meet in good faith with day care union officials, conferring with them on such things as standards and rating systems, training opportunities, reimbursement rates, other topics of mutual concern.
    Should a day care union form, Service Employee International Union Local 284 is seeking to represent daycare providers in Anoka, Dakota, Houston and Wright counties.
    The American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees Council 5 is seeking to represent daycare providers in Chisago, Isanti, Kanabec, Mille Lacs, Morrison, Pine, Sherburne and Washington counties.

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  • KickAssFlash
    TCS AutoX Driver
    TCS Auto-X Driver
    • Jul 2004
    • 11568

    #2
    What's wrong with allowing the underpaid underclass of society the right to demand a fair wage? Why would we allow wealthy day care providers to reject a unionization proposal that the majority of less well-off day care providers want? They are the ones that need protection.

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    • Fernanernie
      Hot slut aficionado
      • Dec 2003
      • 50750

      #3
      Originally posted by Stallion View Post
      What's wrong with allowing the underpaid underclass of society the right to demand a fair wage? Why would we allow wealthy day care providers to reject a unionization proposal that the majority of less well-off day care providers want? They are the ones that need protection.
      That's all smoke and roses, but why don't we call it what it really is?

      The Sitt on your ass and watch TV Union
      Dear Government, eventually the people with money will tell you to fuck off, and stop paying for those that don't work

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      • CATALYST
        8's or blow it up tryin!
        • Oct 2009
        • 1213

        #4
        Oh yeah like anyone believes that rates arent going to go up. Dumb bitch. Also why are people in this state so retarded that we let this fuckstain back into a position of power? What a piece of shit.

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        • No1Ford
          TCS Regular
          • Apr 2006
          • 1572

          #5
          Originally posted by Stallion View Post
          What's wrong with allowing the underpaid underclass of society the right to demand a fair wage? Why would we allow wealthy day care providers to reject a unionization proposal that the majority of less well-off day care providers want? They are the ones that need protection.
          Hmmm, well if they were under paid no one would work there.
          Originally posted by Grenade
          Congtratz No1 Ford!!!! The 1/4 is 1320, with him going sidways most of it, it was prolly 1390. Makes his time more impressive.

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          • badcobra
            BEAT IT!!!!!!
            • Sep 2004
            • 4409

            #6
            Minnesota already some of the highest daycare costs in the country. Get ready to pay even more....with absolutely not one benefit of this Union going to the parent or child.

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            • crzy88lx
              I Rock Catholic Girls
              • May 2005
              • 3561

              #7
              as if daycare isnt expensive enough as it is...

              democrats need all the votes they can get, so they are pushing for this union formation to happen.
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              • N8Dogg98
                Nasty
                • Mar 2010
                • 1885

                #8
                My daycare provider is pissed about this. She's a christian conservative and only charges us $40 for both kids (2 year old and a 7 month old). She does it because she enjoys it and doesn't want to get a job outside the home, we like it because it is inexpensive, it's close to my wife's work, and we feel as though our kids are safe and well taken care of over there.

                Long story short, our daycare provider doesn't like the idea of being unionized. The union may strong arm a change in daycare licensing regulations which would impact our arrangement with our daycare lady and our costs could go up as a result. Even if a daycare provider chose not to join the union, they'd still be impacted by changes in daycare regulations as a result of union activity, no?

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                • Fernanernie
                  Hot slut aficionado
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 50750

                  #9
                  Originally posted by N8Dogg98 View Post
                  Even if a daycare provider chose not to join the union, they'd still be impacted by changes in daycare regulations as a result of union activity, no?


                  Fucking Dayton is a toolshed
                  Dear Government, eventually the people with money will tell you to fuck off, and stop paying for those that don't work

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                  • Fosters
                    Typical white person
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 16014

                    #10
                    Originally posted by CATALYST View Post
                    Also why are people in this state so retarded that we let this fuckstain back into a position of power?
                    Minnesotans are fucking stupid. Plain and simple. Al Franken. Gas tax increase while gas is $4/gal. Walter Mondale. The list never ends.
                    Originally posted by punch
                    SFC is a bag of stupid.
                    Capitalization is the difference between helping your uncle Jack off a horse & helping your uncle jack off a horse.

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                    • N8Dogg98
                      Nasty
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 1885

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Fernanernie View Post


                      Fucking Dayton is a toolshed
                      Maybe instead they should have licensing regulations for unionized daycare centers, and license regulations for non-unionized daycare centers. How fucking hard is it... Of course then parents would be unlikely to send their kids to the union centers because they'd be more expensive than the non-union centers and demand shit like paid holidays, paid healthcare benefits, etc...

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                      • KickAssFlash
                        TCS AutoX Driver
                        TCS Auto-X Driver
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 11568

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Fernanernie View Post


                        Fucking Dayton is a toolshed
                        Mark Dayton has done more for working families in this state than any other previous governor. If you don't like him or unions, why don't you move to a redneck southern state like North Carolina? Oh wait, because you'd have a shitty paying job with no protection. lol.

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                        • 2baditsnotachev
                          TCS Homer
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 2354

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Stallion View Post
                          Mark Dayton has done more for working families in this state than any other previous governor. If you don't like him or unions, why don't you move to a redneck southern state like North Carolina? Oh wait, because you'd have a shitty paying job with no protection. lol.
                          Or why don't douchebag liberal fucks like yourself move on over to europe. Fuck unions and fuck you, I work in a union shop, you know what they do for me... take $60 a month and that is it. It is plainly a way for unions to rake in more dues plain and simple and all the while insuring more democratic votes. Unions will ruin this country the same way they ruined gm.

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                          • KickAssFlash
                            TCS AutoX Driver
                            TCS Auto-X Driver
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 11568

                            #14
                            Originally posted by 2baditsnotachev View Post
                            Or why don't douchebag liberal fucks like yourself move on over to europe. Fuck unions and fuck you, I work in a union shop, you know what they do for me... take $60 a month and that is it. It is plainly a way for unions to rake in more dues plain and simple and all the while insuring more democratic votes. Unions will ruin this country the same way they ruined gm.
                            Unions didn't ruin GM, GM ruined GM. That's what happens when you put profits over people. Start cutting manufacturing standards, cutting labor costs, and bring in corrupt, incompetent management and you lose market share. What does the average assembly line worker have to do with that? Just because he wants a livable wage to support his family and 1/00th of the retirement and health care benefits management gets? Leave it to ignorant redneck conservatives to blame the guy down the street trying to support his family.

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                            • Fernanernie
                              Hot slut aficionado
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 50750

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Stallion View Post
                              Mark Dayton has done more for working families in this state than any other previous governor. If you don't like him or unions, why don't you move to a redneck southern state like North Carolina? Oh wait, because you'd have a shitty paying job with no protection. lol.
                              Yep, that's me, just a lowly career in healthcare with no security. Please get off your horse, you can't smell your shit from up there
                              Dear Government, eventually the people with money will tell you to fuck off, and stop paying for those that don't work

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