hoooray stockmarket plumet and QE3

[titanium]

Nothing to do with Europe at all! Where were the posts about the market remaining solid and going up while the government couldn't decide on the debt ceiling stuff? Why did the Oslo thread die after we found out he was a xenophobic christian fundamentalist? How come the foiled Ft.Hood terror plot by the white guy got minimal attention? Weird....


Oh wait this is tcstangs where correlation is created when needed and heads buried when things dont fit the typical idiotic views.

[N8Dogg98]

Nothing to do with Europe at all! Where were the posts about the market remaining solid and going up while the government couldn't decide on the debt ceiling stuff? Why did the Oslo thread die after we found out he was a xenophobic christian fundamentalist? How come the foiled Ft.Hood terror plot by the white guy got minimal attention? Weird....


Oh wait this is tcstangs where correlation is created when needed and heads buried when things dont fit the typical idiotic views.

What the F does this have to do with the stockmarket? Obama and the democrats have successfully demonstrated once again that the leftist ideology simply doesn't work. Unemployment is still over 9% (real unemployment is much higher), the stock market is uneasy, house values are still dropping, and many of the people who are back to work after losing a job are making less than they were before the economy tanked. Why, after all the blame placed on Bush during his presidency, are you incapable of placing the blame on Obama?

If that's not enough evidence to show that liberal policies don't work, remember most of Europe is in financial turmoil *cough* Greece *cough*

I don't get how anyone can continue to support a political party that has adopted values that have been PROVEN time and time again to fail.

[Fosters]

Then democrats must be the middle ground between communists and republicans! Two separate middle grounds, how amazing.

I don't see any difference between democrats and socialist/communist actions/ideals. I will gladly point out the differences between republicans and conservatives, if your koolaid drinking zombie brain can handle that.

[titanium]

What the F does this have to do with the stockmarket? Obama and the democrats have successfully demonstrated once again that the leftist ideology simply doesn't work. Unemployment is still over 9% (real unemployment is much higher), the stock market is uneasy, house values are still dropping, and many of the people who are back to work after losing a job are making less than they were before the economy tanked. Why, after all the blame placed on Bush during his presidency, are you incapable of placing the blame on Obama?

If that's not enough evidence to show that liberal policies don't work, remember most of Europe is in financial turmoil *cough* Greece *cough*

I don't get how anyone can continue to support a political party that has adopted values that have been PROVEN time and time again to fail.

What does The European economy have to do with the stock market? Hahahh ohhhh you, ohhhh N8Dawgmesiter1989thug4lyfe

If you want to look at liberal policies working look no further than *cough* Germany *cough* but you probably wont, you'll probably just ignore that cause it doesnt align with how you want to perceive things. Why golllly they even have a universal health care system!

Obama was handed a massive mess and things arent currently going well, I wont say it shouldnt have been resolved by now I wont say it should have. Could things be going better? Probably. Could things be going much worse? Probably. Lets not pick an choose when its convenient to blame the president you most align with. Lets not forget 7-8 years into Bushes time in office most tcstangers were blaming Clinton when things started going south

[Fosters]

If you want to look at liberal policies working look no further than *cough* Germany *cough* but you probably wont, you'll probably just ignore that cause it doesnt align with how you want to perceive things. Why golllly they even have a universal health care system!

Nothing wrong with Germany... except for 8 dollars a gallon gasoline, and GDP per capita 7000 dollars or 15 percent lower than the United States. Fanfuckingtabulous, I can't wait until we get there! How about you take a 15% pay cut and every time you buy a gallon of gas, buy me one too, and we'll see how great it's working out for your dumb ass? If it's working so well, let's see you live it, then you can tell us how it is!

Oh, and the US never had to make a 2cyl 2 stroke cardboard car.

[titanium]

Nothing wrong with Germany... except for 8 dollars a gallon gasoline, and GDP per capita 7000 dollars or 15 percent lower than the United States. Fanfuckingtabulous, I can't wait until we get there! How about you take a 15% pay cut and every time you buy a gallon of gas, buy me one too, and we'll see how great it's working out for your dumb ass? If it's working so well, let's see you live it, then you can tell us how it is!

Oh, and the US never had to make a 2cyl 2 stroke cardboard car.

http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2011/02/what-is-the-secret-to-germanys-economic-success.html

Take note that a good article shows....gasp both sides of the story but the end result is they're doing just fine and would be doing fantastic if on their own.


WHAT A NIGHTMARE OF A LAND! If only we could have such a crap economy, I mean just look what the results are when you google search German economic news. Its dire!

And you're right I mean what good cars come from Germany? They're so socialist there's literally no automotive scene there, one government issued car DAS AUTO!

Nice try failed but nice....wait I guess it wasnt nice... I guess it was a shit try. Welp, better luck next time fosters.

[Max Power]

What does The European economy have to do with the stock market? Hahahh ohhhh you, ohhhh N8Dawgmesiter1989thug4lyfe

If you want to look at liberal policies working look no further than *cough* Germany *cough* but you probably wont, you'll probably just ignore that cause it doesnt align with how you want to perceive things. Why golllly they even have a universal health care system!

Obama was handed a massive mess and things arent currently going well, I wont say it shouldnt have been resolved by now I wont say it should have. Could things be going better? Probably. Could things be going much worse? Probably. Lets not pick an choose when its convenient to blame the president you most align with. Lets not forget 7-8 years into Bushes time in office most tcstangers were blaming Clinton when things started going south

How many here that blame Obama for the latest stock market downturn will be here to give him credit in a few weeks when it will be right back where it is now? My guess would be zero. How many idiots blamed Reagan for Black Friday? None. That's because it was before the "I learned everything I know about politics from Hannity/Olberman" crowd made politics such a cesspool.

Buncha hypocrites.....

[N8Dogg98]

What does The European economy have to do with the stock market? Hahahh ohhhh you, ohhhh N8Dawgmesiter1989thug4lyfe

Oh good you're name calling now... like I've said before the left has 2 tactics, demagoguery and name calling

Perhaps you need some assistance with reading comprehension. You said:

Nothing to do with Europe at all! Where were the posts about the market remaining solid and going up while the government couldn't decide on the debt ceiling stuff? Why did the Oslo thread die after we found out he was a xenophobic christian fundamentalist? How come the foiled Ft.Hood terror plot by the white guy got minimal attention? Weird....

What does Oslo and Ft. Hood have to do with the stock market... I'm just curious...

If you want to look at liberal policies working look no further than *cough* Germany *cough* but you probably wont, you'll probably just ignore that cause it doesnt align with how you want to perceive things. Why golllly they even have a universal health care system!

First of all, Germany has a completely different demographic. I'd also like to know what percentage of their population is on welfare and a general idea of the standards of living they enjoy (including standard of living for those considered to be in poverty). I don't know the figures, but I very much doubt they have a higher standard of living than we do, and I bet our folks "in poverty" are living better than theirs.

Obama was handed a massive mess and things arent currently going well, I wont say it shouldnt have been resolved by now I wont say it should have.

How old are you? We have clear evidence that countries that adopt leftist policies generally end up in financial turmoil or they have serious problems with poverty. USSR, Greece and frankly the entire European Union, and now the US.

Could things be going better? Probably. Could things be going much worse? Probably. Lets not pick an choose when its convenient to blame the president you most align with.

This has nothing to do with convenience and everything to do with feeling vindicated. I've long thought that leftist policies were doomed to failure, and when you look around the world it's fairly easy to see that my assumption was correct. I wish I wasn't vindicated though, because I want nothing more than for all of us to prosper and be successful

The problem with the current business environment is the US government has too many regulations. Think about it like this. You own a small business making camshafts, and you have to hire 2 people to ensure your company is compliant with labor regulations. That's two less people you are paying to produce products for the. The US government has shifted the focus of work from production to regulation management. The problem with this scenario is you have less people producing and providing services, while having more people ensuring regulations are followed that aren't contributing anything to society.

Lets not forget 7-8 years into Bushes time in office most tcstangers were blaming Clinton when things started going south

Most of the things I had a problem with during the Bush presidency were related to liberal ideas. No child left behind for example was a waste of a program and is far from a conservative value. Spending federal money on education, however, is a leftist ideology because it "feels good" to say you want to spend more on education. The fact of the matter is we as a country spend more/citizen on education than we ever have, yet the students continue to struggle. I'd argue it's not a financial issue, but a values issue. The immigration reform that Bush attempted to pass is another example of a liberal policy that would have done additional harm to my country. The point here is there are many things I disapprove of that were done by Bush, but last time I checked it is 2011 and Bush left office in 2008.

How many here that blame Obama for the latest stock market downturn will be here to give him credit in a few weeks when it will be right back where it is now? My guess would be zero. How many idiots blamed Reagan for Black Friday? None. That's because it was before the "I learned everything I know about politics from Hannity/Olberman" crowd made politics such a cesspool.

Buncha hypocrites.....

I haven't been on this site for very long and I'm obviously a conservative, but I'll be the first to give Obama credit when credit is due (such as after the assasination of OBL). I'll also be the first to defend him against ignorant accusations that he's some kind of terrorist

[Newbomb Turk]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4hfdaC7eL4&feature=player_embedded

[mnstang]

This is HAMMER DOWN economics. What you are witnessing, right before your eyes, is the absolute, abject failure of understanding of economics (or absolute understanding and the desired outcome is upon us) and the failure of Obamanomics.

Many criticize Reagan's approach, demonizing it as trickle down or Reaganomics. At this time in his first term, after the HORRENDOUS economic and political decisions of Jimmy the Carter, Reagan had turned this US economy from a recession into a BOOM. That boom lasted for nearly 20 years and created tens of millions of jobs. what Obama has done, in just under three-short years, is decimate the middle class, over regulate and grow government, while simultaneously maintaining the highest unemployment rate since the Great Depression. No small fete, I might add.

Reagan did, literally, the OPPOSITE of what this Obama is doing. In policy, in cabinet appointments, in his advisors to his projecting of US as a great place to do business. There is likely no better contrast than what these two have done. One was a statesman, the other acts like a King.

Obama, if he does not completely destroy this country, will end up making Jimmy Carter look like a relatively successful President.

i'm by no means a fan of obama. but don't pretend he walked into this with a thriving economy. we were already in the shitter when he came. i don't know if any one prez could have came in and actually turned things around.

[Fosters]

http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2011...c-success.html
Take note that a good article shows....gasp both sides of the story but the end result is they're doing just fine and would be doing fantastic if on their own.


WHAT A NIGHTMARE OF A LAND! If only we could have such a crap economy, I mean just look what the results are when you google search German economic news. Its dire!

And you're right I mean what good cars come from Germany? They're so socialist there's literally no automotive scene there, one government issued car DAS AUTO!

Nice try failed but nice....wait I guess it wasnt nice... I guess it was a shit try. Welp, better luck next time fosters.

78.8% debt to gdp ratio. Yep, as long as they can borrow and spend, the economy is doing great. It was doing great when Bush was doing that too. Just you wait until the gravy train stops. Japan is in deep shit, and the big hitters in Europe are next... And we're desperately trying to catch up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_public_debt

If you want to see where this shit is going, look at Greece.

[mnstang]

Oh wait this is tcstangs where correlation is created when needed and heads buried when things dont fit the typical idiotic views.

truer words have never been spoken!

[Fosters]

i'm by no means a fan of obama. but don't pretend he walked into this with a thriving economy. we were already in the shitter when he came. i don't know if any one prez could have came in and actually turned things around.

You don't know if any one president could have came in and turned things around? Especially one that ran on "Yes we can!"?

Odd, because it seems plenty of others have done it in the past:

[mnstang]

You don't know if any one president could have came in and turned things around? Especially one that ran on "Yes we can!"?

Odd, because it seems plenty of others have done it in the past:

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these are much different times and issues than reagan.

who ran against obama? think it was mccain?? lol, well whoever it was, we probably wouldn't be far off from where we're at now.
he does seems to have a very bad thought process in how shit actually works... i just don't think whatever lame ass republican that was running would have done much better. maybe romney but he didn't even make the ticket.

oh yeah, and we had 2 terms of a republican and looked what happened in those 8 years. obama is just continuing the snowball.

[Fosters]

oh yeah, and we had 2 terms of a republican and looked what happened in those 8 years. obama is just continuing the snowball.

But, but.. Obama = CHANGE! Are you saying you voted for more of the same??? Oh no, you mean Obama is just as bad as Bush? But it can't be because he is CHANGE! Bush was bad, and Obama is the messiah!





And I'm sure, everyone on this board at this point will not be willing to admit they voted for this clown... just like people weren't willing to admit they voted for Bush when shit started going sour.