Dayton's Tax Increases

[Mullet Tuner]

Ive seen the light, OhmannClint and 5.0stang85legoguy took my spot.

You will always be blind. It's science.

[Nifty]

If your job sucks so bad get a better one.

b b b b b but then he'd have nothing to bitch about because obviously the only thing wrong with the world is that he doesn't have enough money (through no fault of his own of course). Well, that and that those evil, evil rich people who employ everyone aren't taxed enough.

[Punisher]

85K/year is damn good money. Dont sell yourselves short. Admit that its better than 10.75 at McDonalds....Should YOUR personal taxes be raised because you make 85K/? I dont believe anyones taxes should be raised save for those who dont pay them.

Please spare us the dramatics acting like you are bottom feeding on that coin though.

[kineda]

Actually we just replace you with automation.

[Doodler]

I believe Kurt brought something like this up earlier. Everybody uses essentially the same amount of gov't (hypothetically). The most "fair" way is a flat $ tax. But taxes are based on %. So therefore Richie McMoneybags is already paying more than his fair share ($). Why does he need to lay people off just so his budget is balanced just to give all the money to the govt to spend on bullshit?

[68GTO]

I love this "story", which explains exactly what will happen in this state. It happened in New York, it happened in New Jersey, It is happening in Illinois - all states that tried to solve their budget crisis with taxes on "the rich". Funny, in NJ the wanted to institute a "millionaires tax" and it applied to people making over $400K. Retards... It failed, but...

I digress... Here's the story/analogy:

I was having lunch with one of my favorite clients last week and the conversation turned to the government's recent round of tax cuts.

'"I'm opposed to those tax cuts," the retired college instructor declared, "because they benefit the rich. The rich get much more money back than ordinary taxpayers like you and me and that's not fair.'"

"But the rich pay more in the first place," I argued, "so it stands to reason that they'd get more money back."

I could tell that my friend was unimpressed by this meager argument. So I said to him, "let's put tax cuts in terms everyone can understand."

"Suppose that every day 10 men go to a restaurant for dinner. The bill for all ten comes to $100. If it was paid the way we pay our taxes, the first four men would pay nothing; the fifth would pay $1; the sixth would pay $3; the seventh $7; the eighth $12; the ninth $18. The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59."

The 10 men ate dinner in the restaurant every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement until the owner threw them a curve. "Since you are all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily meal by $20." Now dinner for the 10 only costs $80. The first four are unaffected. They still eat for free. Can you figure out how to divvy up the $20 savings among the remaining six so that everyone gets his fair share? The men realize that $20 divided by 6 is $3.33, but if they subtract that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would end up being paid to eat their meal.

The restaurant owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same percentage, being sure to give each a break, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay. And so now the fifth man paid nothing, the sixth pitched in $2, the seventh paid $5, the eighth paid $9, the ninth paid $12, leaving the tenth man with a bill of $52 instead of $59.

Outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings. "I only got a dollar out of the $20," complained the sixth man, pointing to the tenth, "and he got $7!"

"Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a dollar, too. It's unfair that he got seven times more than me!"

"That's true," shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get $7 back when I got only $2? The wealthy get all the breaks!"

"Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison. "We didn't get anything at all. The system exploits the poor."

Then, the nine men surrounded the tenth man (the richest one, paying the most) and beat him up. The next night the richest man didn't show up for dinner, so now the nine men sat down and ate without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They were $52 short!

"And that, boys, girls and college instructors, is how America's tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up at the table any more. There are lots of good restaurants in Switzerland and the Caribbean."

[kineda]

I love this "story", which explains exactly what will happen in this state. It happened in New York, it happened in New Jersey, It is happening in Illinois - all states that tried to solve their budget crisis with taxes on "the rich". Funny, in NJ the wanted to institute a "millionaires tax" and it applied to people making over $400K. Retards... It failed, but...

I digress... Here's the story/analogy:

in a related note, stop eating at $100 a plate dinners

[Fosters]

in a related note, stop eating at $100 a plate dinners

That was $10 a plate... $100 total, 10 people.

[kineda]

That was $10 a plate... $100 total, 10 people.

:suicide: fuck i need to catch up on sleep

[NOTNSS]

:suicide: fuck i need to catch up on sleep

3am whippings keeping you awake?

[kineda]

3am whippings keeping you awake?

no too much robe and wizard hat

[NOTNSS]

no too much robe and wizard hat

I didn't realize MustangMatt and you were in a relationship....

[kineda]

I didn't realize MustangMatt and you were in a relationship....

[I Tried]

:whee:

I didn't realize MustangMatt and you were in a relationship....

[steve vermeer]

The truly amazing thing is, the politicians have caused the shortfalls,NOT the taxpayers.Still the lawmakers want us,the taxpayers,who have done nothing wrong, designated or directed no funds to be spent,to pay to correct THIER errors and overspending.They have pissed away the money given them to run things and now they want more.....