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  • billb
    TCS Regular
    • Dec 2004
    • 490

    #16
    Originally posted by Scotty07 View Post
    Does this guy do powder coating, too?
    I need a laugh, thank you...... now back to the crazy house
    71 Nova, 454/th350, 2800 stall, 8.5 4.10 posi, kinda stock , soon to pull 454/th350 and get LSX transplant
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    • Scotty07
      Meh
      • Apr 2007
      • 19655

      #17
      Originally posted by billb View Post
      I need a laugh, thank you...... now back to the crazy house
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      DISCLAIMER: Everything the above poster posts is for entertainment purposes only. If you are not entertained, go **** yourself!!

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      • Fernanernie
        Hot slut aficionado
        • Dec 2003
        • 50750

        #18
        Originally posted by Scotty07 View Post
        Does this guy do powder coating, too?
        He's probably in charge of other contracting services too. Say maybe windows, siding, roofing. Fuck, anybody that has watched DIY for over 3 hours could've done what this guy did.

        Bill: Make sure you be as specific in contracts as possible in the future, it would prevent shmucks like this from even remotely having the chance to get any $$ out of you. Also, make sure that the new contractor draws up in his estimate any time it takes him to fix what Jon Powdercoat Concrete 'did'
        Dear Government, eventually the people with money will tell you to fuck off, and stop paying for those that don't work

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        • Turbohwagon
          Fhqwhgads
          • Dec 2008
          • 12835

          #19
          This looks like a disaster in progress....
          Godspeed, on the Devil's thunder.

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          • SDK
            #1McMoppoFan
            • Oct 2005
            • 12342

            #20
            I don't see anything wrong with it. If an there is room for a nice apron that is not too steep you would be fine above grade. Easier to keep water out. The quality may not be great but you probably got bids from $2,500 to $10,000 and you picked the $2,500.

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            • SDK
              #1McMoppoFan
              • Oct 2005
              • 12342

              #21
              Look at other garages, There is a course of block above grade then the siding starts. Do you want your siding to start in the dirt?

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              • billb
                TCS Regular
                • Dec 2004
                • 490

                #22
                Originally posted by SDK View Post
                Look at other garages, There is a course of block above grade then the siding starts. Do you want your siding to start in the dirt?
                quote is $4200, and that is with TWO courses of block

                should have paid for angies list ahead of time, he had one review, and it was bad (yes, you will see usually only the bad) but similar problem of just pouring over grass for a patio, and afterwards the people could not open there garage service door or gate because the slab was too high.
                Last edited by billb; 10-02-2010, 05:04 PM.
                71 Nova, 454/th350, 2800 stall, 8.5 4.10 posi, kinda stock , soon to pull 454/th350 and get LSX transplant
                74 Dart
                97 F150
                00 Escort ZX2
                99 Sable LS

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                • SDK
                  #1McMoppoFan
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 12342

                  #23
                  The grass is not a huge deal, I would only of been concerned with the cement quality and the finishing of it. If they pour and leave, the rocks will blow out soon. I think if they over work it, it can also flake off so there is a happy medium to the way concrete floors are finished.

                  I guess you can;t take it for granted that every cement guy knows what is goin on.

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                  • billb
                    TCS Regular
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 490

                    #24
                    Originally posted by SDK View Post
                    The grass is not a huge deal, I would only of been concerned with the cement quality and the finishing of it. If they pour and leave, the rocks will blow out soon. I think if they over work it, it can also flake off so there is a happy medium to the way concrete floors are finished.

                    I guess you can;t take it for granted that every cement guy knows what is goin on.
                    So if you made the same mistake hiring this guy, and you were at this point, what would you have done? Am I being too picky?
                    71 Nova, 454/th350, 2800 stall, 8.5 4.10 posi, kinda stock , soon to pull 454/th350 and get LSX transplant
                    74 Dart
                    97 F150
                    00 Escort ZX2
                    99 Sable LS

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                    • Scorpner
                      Some posts are Ironic
                      • Jun 2006
                      • 8476

                      #25
                      Wow, what a mess.

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                      • Mike8675309
                        the power of suggestion
                        • May 2006
                        • 145

                        #26
                        The main issue with setting all that stuff above grade is there is nothing to hold the fill in. Without a proper grading and a sloped edge to the fill, it could easily wash out below the slab. What should be done is figure out the entrance to the garage. Where do you want that to be. Then what kind of pitch do you want on the driveway (i.e. does it need to be flat so your kids can play basketball?). From that, along with all the necessary base material depths you calculate the top edge of the garage slab, and work your way down from there to include fill material.

                        Now they may have already done that, but it seems odd that all those numbers would result in being so far above grade but property.

                        Pouring over the grass depends on the soil. When I've seen that the soil is tilled first, to enable it to be compacted. Surface soil is typically not very compact, and it can be hard to compact until it is broken up. But it depends on your yard.

                        In general, if you hire someone to do some work and they act as though it is a complete pain in their ass to explain things to you when you ask questions... Well then kick that guy to the curb and get someone else. If they can't explain their shit, you have to question if they even know what they are doing.
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                        • Spiral
                          Crayon Guy
                          • Sep 2004
                          • 8157

                          #27
                          When my garage was done they were able to dig down about 10-15" before they hit massive bedrock. At that point we both agreed to stop before more excavation equipment had to be brought in. The height of the forms form grade will vary because they do all the measurements from a surveyors scope at one reference point. I wanted mined above grade referenced from the boulevard 12" for drainage slope which was easy in my case because my perimeter was done 24"d x 12"w.





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                          • Spiral
                            Crayon Guy
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 8157

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Mike8675309 View Post
                            The main issue with setting all that stuff above grade is there is nothing to hold the fill in. Without a proper grading and a sloped edge to the fill, it could easily wash out below the slab. What should be done is figure out the entrance to the garage. Where do you want that to be. Then what kind of pitch do you want on the driveway (i.e. does it need to be flat so your kids can play basketball?). From that, along with all the necessary base material depths you calculate the top edge of the garage slab, and work your way down from there to include fill material.

                            Now they may have already done that, but it seems odd that all those numbers would result in being so far above grade but property.

                            Pouring over the grass depends on the soil. When I've seen that the soil is tilled first, to enable it to be compacted. Surface soil is typically not very compact, and it can be hard to compact until it is broken up. But it depends on your yard.

                            In general, if you hire someone to do some work and they act as though it is a complete pain in their ass to explain things to you when you ask questions... Well then kick that guy to the curb and get someone else. If they can't explain their shit, you have to question if they even know what they are doing.
                            This man is correct. The forms do need to sit below grade or the fill will wash out from underneath...
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                            • 98Julik
                              TCS Homer
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 2614

                              #29
                              I know the owner of a VERY good concrete company I can vouch for. PM me if you want him to give you a bid for everything to be fixed and done properly.
                              Originally posted by Fernanernie
                              It's like watching a fat girl in stretch pants and a thong dancing. Sooner or later, something is going to happen, it might not be pretty, but you can't help watching
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                              • 1989MustangGT
                                TCS Homer
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 798

                                #30
                                I have been in concrete since 2002, I have never poured on class five. We always dig below grade and ad at minimum 4-6" of sand fill or recycled asphault/concrete. Some jobs require a compaction test others do not. I have been on jobs where we have laid class five or bigger but always lay sand fill for the final fill. Also a shed should have a thickened edge atleast as well. The way it looks like its setup now your slab will raise uneven over the Winter and in a couple years will be cracked to hell.

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