argue about participation.

[StangerJon]

why do you think that you can autox with shitty tires, but you cant drag race with shitty tires?

[Forbidn]

Because i said so, thats why

[CAMSS30]

Well with a car that makes real power and tourqe the tires will spin which in turn will give you a shit time. Who is auto crossing with shitty tires anyways? I would never do it without good rubber.

[Stormwalker]

A lot of the fun in drag racing is feeling the launch off the line, which will not happen if you have crappy street tires that sit there and spin. Just ask outrun how his drag racing attempt on his autox tires went.


Where conversely, autox takes so much more into consideration than just tires (though they play an important part on a competitive level!). Driving skill, type of car and suspension, track conditions, all take a much greater part in determining your success than in drag racing, where the struggle to equalize power and traction is your main goal. Autocross and drag racing are two very different motorsports, with much different dynamics.

[StangerJon]

Well with a car that makes real power and tourqe the tires will spin which in turn will give you a shit time. Who is auto crossing with shitty tires anyways? I would never do it without good rubber.

I autox with shitty ass tires for one.
brother goes on stock good years.
phranquey went with tread wear 380 tires.
punch went with DR's
I dont know what scot uses.



just to name a few.

[StangerJon]

A lot of the fun in drag racing is feeling the launch off the line, which will not happen if you have crappy street tires that sit there and spin. Just ask outrun how his drag racing attempt on his autox tires went.


Where conversely, autox takes so much more into consideration than just tires (though they play an important part on a competitive level!). Driving skill, type of car and suspension, track conditions, all take a much greater part in determining your success than in drag racing, where the struggle to equalize power and traction is your main goal. Autocross and drag racing are two very different motorsports, with much different dynamics.

I watched a stock mustang beat a full coil over'd mach 1.


bracket race. learn to launch/drive what you have. seems like ryan does fine with his shitty kumho's.

[ACRucrazy]

Frum cone


nuff said.

[Stormwalker]

Well, I am no expert on drag racing. It was just an idea of mine about renting out drag radials, I suppose in the interest of consitency it would not make much sense.

[StangerJon]

Well, I am no expert on drag racing. It was just an idea of mine about renting out drag radials, I suppose in the interest of consitency it would not make much sense.

exactly. you complain about people that make excuses to not autox. but then you throw one out yourself.

[CAMSS30]

bracket race. learn to launch/drive what you have. seems like ryan does fine with his shitty kumho's.

Jon you have no clue, if you have a car that makes a ton of power there is absolutley no way you will hook up on reagular tires at the track or on the street. And if your talking about Ryan (Zinc) he cut 2.0 60's which is shit but still ran great times but nowhere near what he would run with traction say a 1.60 60 foot.

[StangerJon]

Jon you have no clue, if you have a car that makes a ton of power there is absolutley no way you will hook up on reagular tires at the track or on the street. And if your talking about Ryan (Zinc) he cut 2.0 60's which is shit but still ran great times but nowhere near what he would run with traction say a 1.60 60 foot.

appearently I have no clue.


I like to run what I got, not borrow shit to make my car completely different.

can I borrow your brakes? mine dont work as well as I would like them to. I would be able to turn much better times if I had nice brakes.

^^^^thats basically what runs through my head when you say you cant go fast in a drag race with out tires.

[ACRucrazy]

Jon you have no clue, if you have a car that makes a ton of power there is absolutley no way you will hook up on reagular tires at the track or on the street. And if your talking about Ryan (Zinc) he cut 2.0 60's which is shit but still ran great times but nowhere near what he would run with traction say a 1.60 60 foot.

So by that logic..... say a AWD car... cut a .5 sec better reaction time to a car thats making 350+. then that same AWD car cut a .5 sec BETTER 60ft time then said rwd car...

Would it be logical to say that said AWD (say STi for arguments sake) "could" put a bus length on said 350 hp RWD car (say GTO with nawwwz) ?

Just a question.

[punch]

I auto-x with almost-bald-nittoz and they do fine once they get heated up.. which is usually by the 3rd-4th turn.

I really think that tires are important on auto-x.. espically with rwd v8 cars because it seems very easy to spin out if you power out of a corner and your rubber doesn't hold.

But if you know you have shitty tires, I can see how you could restrain yourself a bit on the track and still have a good time without any spin outs.

[Outrun]

1st time drag racing, running on 7 cylinders, broken trac lock, running on 245/45/17 yokohama AVS ES100’s, sitting there at the start line spinning and spinning….best run 16.1@85 OWNED.

[StangerJon]

1st time drag racing, running on 7 cylinders, broken trac lock, running on 245/45/17 yokohama AVS ES100’s, sitting there at the start line spinning and spinning….best run 16.1@85 OWNED.

well, judging by your MPH, you probly wouldnt have went too much faster if you did have drag tires.