Test: 2010 Ford Mustang GT vs. 2009 Nissan 370Z

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  • punch
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    • Oct 2002
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    Test: 2010 Ford Mustang GT vs. 2009 Nissan 370Z



    Video (watch the vid!) and full story: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...opanel..3.*#48

    These cars are perfect to put head to head. Both are about the same price (both have a base price of around $30,000), both are front engine rwd performance cars, and the mustang has 315hp while the Z has 332hp.

    Even though the mustang comes in second to the Z in this test, one thing that's worthy to note is the performance results:

    The Light Goes Green
    Go ahead; pick a car, any car. Both of them will reach 60 mph in 5.2 seconds (4.9 seconds with 1 foot of rollout like on a drag strip). Similarly, the Z runs the quarter in 13.5 seconds at 103.7 mph and the Mustang a nearly identical 13.5 at 102.9 mph. If their straight-line performance was any closer we'd have to start splitting atoms to measure the difference. And before you ask, we filled the Mustang with premium (91 octane) fuel, which Ford says fattens up the torque curve without affecting the peak.

    The difference between the two lies in the power delivery. With better gearing and less weight, the 3,374-pound 370Z's speed sneaks up on you. The 7,500-rpm reach of its 3.7-liter V6 is far around the tachometer dial, and there are no flat spots in the power delivery all the way up to the 332-horsepower peak at 7,000 rpm.

    However, the coarse sounds and vibration of this V6 mean you have to grit your teeth and force yourself to keep the throttle floored past 6,000 rpm. Like other Nissans equipped with this powertrain, the din is accompanied by a gearlever that sizzles frantically with high-frequency vibration. We're fans of earlier iterations of Nissan's VQ-Series V6, but the 370Z's VQ37HR could use some finishing school.

    If you're cynical, the 2010 Ford Mustang's three-valve 4.6-liter V8 can be thought of as a weaponized version of an engine that dates back nearly a decade and a half (though not that much further than the VQ-Series V6, really). Yet this mill doesn't betray its age willingly. The benefits of continuous improvement are evident in its tractability and willingness to run happily on regular-grade 87 octane fuel.

    The 315-hp Mustang's V8 doesn't two-by-four you in the chest when you mat the throttle off idle and then fall on its face, wheezing like some pony car of old. Instead, the torque is soft down low, stacking up progressively as the revs pile on. It needs to be above 3,000 rpm before the V8 starts cashing the checks written by its intake note.

    And it is some intake note — Ford has done a stupendous job of replicating the gloriously guttural bark of 1960s-era Mustangs, and it renders the Z's grating high-rpm warble that much more intolerable. The urge to scale and descend the Mustang's rev range just to savor it is irresistible.
    I love both of these cars personally. I'd pimp either one of them.
    Last edited by punch; 03-12-2009, 11:10 PM.
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  • Notch
    Trunkback Moostang
    • May 2005
    • 23574

    #2
    I like the Mustang's drivetrain more, but I like the look of the 370 more because it isn't more retro shit.

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    • Mustangmatt
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      • May 2004
      • 10806

      #3
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      Your moms combustion chamber is great for forced induction.

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      • mnstang
        Bookending TCS
        • Oct 2002
        • 33500

        #4
        those are pretty good performance numbers for the stang. i kind of like the 2010 the front end looks cool too.

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        • Fosters
          Typical white person
          • Sep 2006
          • 16014

          #5
          Of course, no mustang review would be complete w/o the essential dogging on the live axle... Yet no one ever mentions the mustangs whuping 350z and m3 ass in the grand-am races, with said live axle...

          Sick and tired of the shit... it's like ragging on the vette about it's mono leaf spring in the back - absolutely retarded.
          Originally posted by punch
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          Capitalization is the difference between helping your uncle Jack off a horse & helping your uncle jack off a horse.

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          • mnstang
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            • Oct 2002
            • 33500

            #6
            Originally posted by Fosters View Post

            Sick and tired of the shit... it's like ragging on the vette about it's mono leaf spring in the back - absolutely retarded.
            or like you ragging on the f150?

            but really, sick and tired of it?? do you really care? and if so, why!?

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            • Notch
              Trunkback Moostang
              • May 2005
              • 23574

              #7
              Originally posted by Fosters View Post
              Of course, no mustang review would be complete w/o the essential dogging on the live axle... Yet no one ever mentions the mustangs whuping 350z and m3 ass in the grand-am races, with said live axle...

              Sick and tired of the shit... it's like ragging on the vette about it's mono leaf spring in the back - absolutely retarded.
              It will only annoy me once they get rid of the solid axle. Till then they can rag on it all they want for all I care.

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              • punch
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                • Oct 2002
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                #8
                Originally posted by Fosters View Post
                Of course, no mustang review would be complete w/o the essential dogging on the live axle... Yet no one ever mentions the mustangs whuping 350z and m3 ass in the grand-am races, with said live axle...

                Sick and tired of the shit... it's like ragging on the vette about it's mono leaf spring in the back - absolutely retarded.
                So because race cars use a fine tuned live axle to win races, that makes it ok for Ford to still use them in production cars? Interesting logic there.

                In that review the 370Z wups the mustang in the slalom. I guess that's ok tho, because Grand-Am mustangs kick ass.

                Doesn't the new camaro have independent rear suspension?
                Last edited by punch; 03-12-2009, 11:28 PM.
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                • titanium
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                  • Feb 2006
                  • 4639

                  #9
                  The only race cars that matter are NASCARS and till they get some fuel injection FUCK THAT SHIT!

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                  • Notch
                    Trunkback Moostang
                    • May 2005
                    • 23574

                    #10
                    Solid axle or

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                    • mnstang
                      Bookending TCS
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 33500

                      #11
                      Originally posted by 93NotchLX View Post
                      Solid axle or
                      why?

                      the only reason they use it is because it's cheaper.

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                      • Notch
                        Trunkback Moostang
                        • May 2005
                        • 23574

                        #12
                        Originally posted by mnstang View Post
                        why?

                        the only reason they use it is because it's cheaper.
                        Personal preference and straight line performance.

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                        • mnstang
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                          • Oct 2002
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                          • Notch
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                            • May 2005
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by mnstang View Post

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                            • Fosters
                              Typical white person
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 16014

                              #15
                              Originally posted by mnstang View Post
                              or like you ragging on the f150?

                              but really, sick and tired of it?? do you really care? and if so, why!?
                              I rag on the F150 because of the lack of power, and go figure, most competitions, it gets its ass handed to it. How is that the same?

                              And I do care, I still like mustangs. They rag on the live axle as if it was a limiting point; where in racing, if indeed it was such a big drawback, that weakness would be greatly magnified.

                              Originally posted by punch View Post
                              So because race cars use a fine tuned live axle to win races, that makes it ok for Ford to still use them in production cars? Interesting logic there.
                              If the live axle was such a big problem, it would impact the race cars too, wouldn't it? Don't tell me the 350z's and M3s are running on stock suspension, and only the mustang's rear is tuned... All I'm saying, in an environment where any shortcoming is exposed and magnified, the live axle does just fine it seems...

                              Originally posted by punch View Post
                              In that review the 370Z wups the mustang in the slalom. I guess that's ok tho, because Grand-Am mustangs kick ass.
                              And that's definitely because of the rear axle... it can't be because of the crappy ass skinny tall tires, or the front suspension, or the larger weight from having 2 more seats, no, it's definitely because of the live axle. Interesting logic there.

                              Originally posted by punch View Post
                              Doesn't the new camaro have independent rear suspension?
                              Just checked http://www.chevrolet.com/, and I think the camaro so far has an invisible rear suspension... still an IRS, just slight difference there
                              Originally posted by punch
                              SFC is a bag of stupid.
                              Capitalization is the difference between helping your uncle Jack off a horse & helping your uncle jack off a horse.

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