Brake rotors seized to hub. The best way to remove them?

[Fernanernie]

Heat checked? Nice term. Why not just pad slap them then?

Because I'm not a parts shotgunner that wants to deal with pulsating pedal and shake or reduced stopping due to a glazed over pad in 500 miles. But hey, doing the job twice is more fun!!!!

Now I see why you're always balls deep in warranty work.


Let me guess, you also don't believe in lubing caliper pins either?

[mnstang]

Because I'm not a parts shotgunner that wants to deal with pulsating pedal and shake or reduced stopping due to a glazed over pad in 500 miles. But hey, doing the job twice is more fun!!!!

Now I see why you're always balls deep in warranty work.


Let me guess, you also don't believe in lubing caliper pins either?

Warped rotors will warp again. Glazed over pad? Stop buying brk fgt brakes. But hey, doing the job cheap is twice the fun/money!1

[av6ateu]

Because I'm not a parts shotgunner that wants to deal with pulsating pedal and shake or reduced stopping due to a glazed over pad in 500 miles. But hey, doing the job twice is more fun!!!!

Now I see why you're always balls deep in warranty work.


Let me guess, you also don't believe in lubing caliper pins either?

I think your eyes are glazed over right now

[Fernanernie]

Warped rotors will warp again. Glazed over pad? Stop buying brk fgt brakes. But hey, doing the job cheap is twice the fun/money!1

Oh Grog

Listen, I'm not saying that you should always turn rotors. but if there's plenty of material to safely remove and still have the thickness required to maintain proper heat dissipation, then no need to replace them. Overbuilt brah.

Warped rotors are caused more by inherent design flaws and overuse than by shaving a few thousandths off a perfectly usable item

But hey, get that ticket price up so you can pay your Union dues this month

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[tim]

Heat checked? Nice term. Why not just pad slap them then?

Turning rotors is pretty pointless these days for reasons already pointed out in this thread.

Pads don't break in properly when the rotors aren't new or machined.

Plenty of places still machine rotors, if they are above minimum spec I see no problem. The ones I had turned were worn evenly and not pulsing so it took very little material removal to clean them up. I agree with you though that most cars rotors are cheap enough, why bother, in my case it wasn't that way.

[Max Power]

The rear rotors on my Dodge Ram pickup are $38 a piece. Not only do you have to machine the rotor, but the inner drum of it is the surface area for the parking brake mechanism, so you should probably machine that too.

Or, just spend $75 for the pair and stop wasting time, because I am dope like that.

I have machined my last rotor.

[289Notch]

What everyone seems to be missing is that a cheap rotor is just that. JUNK.

On a newer car with no major warpage or rust I'd rather machine the factory rotor than buy new garbage if that is all your budget can afford.

Most of us have learned our lesson with cheap rotors but clearly not all.

[Fernanernie]

The rear rotors on my Dodge Ram pickup are $38 a piece. Not only do you have to machine the rotor, but the inner drum of it is the surface area for the parking brake mechanism, so you should probably machine that too.

Or, just spend $75 for the pair and stop wasting time, because I am dope like that.

I have machined my last rotor.

...and I have no issue with that. Hell, I did fronts on my Mazda, and I think the rotors were under $15/ea. (thanks RockAuto). So since they were so cheap, I replaced them because I was probably going to spend that much to have them turned anyways. But, if they're running $75-$100 each, and there's plenty of material to cut, you bet I'm going to have them turned. Listen, I'm not advocating just turning all rotors. But, if you can cut them and still be safely over minimum machine to thickness as well as no other issues (cracking, checking, rusting, warpage...), you're wasting your money/charging people for what they don't need.

[Max Power]

What everyone seems to be missing is that a cheap rotor is just that. JUNK.

On a newer car with no major warpage or rust I'd rather machine the factory rotor than buy new garbage if that is all your budget can afford.

Most of us have learned our lesson with cheap rotors but clearly not all.

Many of the Chinese ones are cheaper because they are Chinese, not because they are junk. I have been using them for years, and never had one warp. If Brake & Equipment is selling them, it is probably because they are not having any warranty issues with them. And with so many factory rotors warping within 25k miles, I think the veil of manufacturer parts being superior has been lifted, at least as far as rotors go.

[Max Power]

...and I have no issue with that. Hell, I did fronts on my Mazda, and I think the rotors were under $15/ea. (thanks RockAuto). So since they were so cheap, I replaced them because I was probably going to spend that much to have them turned anyways. But, if they're running $75-$100 each, and there's plenty of material to cut, you bet I'm going to have them turned. Listen, I'm not advocating just turning all rotors. But, if you can cut them and still be safely over minimum machine to thickness as well as no other issues (cracking, checking, rusting, warpage...), you're wasting your money/charging people for what they don't need.

To be fair, I am talking about what I do for myself, not what is being offered to a retail customer in a shop setting. If I were in a position to make those recommendations, I would offer all the options, although with the value of a tech's time in a shop environment, I think they are probably making no money at all at the rate quoted above.

[Fernanernie]

Many of the Chinese ones are cheaper because they are Chinese, not because they are junk. I have been using them for years, and never had one warp. If Brake & Equipment is selling them, it is probably because they are not having any warranty issues with them. And with so many factory rotors warping within 25k miles, I think the veil of manufacturer parts being superior has been lifted, at least as far as rotors go.

The shops that I worked at went through many sources and I could probably count about a dozen times that I've gotten warped, varied thickness, excessive runout rotors. Shit made in Singapore, Mexico, China... didn't matter. Mainly due to treatment of the part, not the actual manufacturing

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[Redlineracer12]

over minimum machine to thickness as well as no other issues (cracking, checking, rusting, warpage...)

So basically no rotors from a Minnesota car that are over 2 winters old?

[av6ateu]

So basically no rotors from a Minnesota car that are over 2 winters old?

Exactly

[mnstang]

Listen,

No

[Fernanernie]

No

OK, Pal

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