National Security Debate

[OrangeCrush 86]

Ron Paul has big ideas, both good and bad. Aside from being ignored by the media he has a more pressing problem as a presidential candidate; presidents lack the power to make any of the changes he advocates. As more and more power consolidates in the executive branch Machiavelli principles come into play and the president -- just as the prince -- has the power to do anything except make his own decisions (if he wishes to retain his position).

This is exactly why he is the best candidate. The best things that would come from him being president would be that his executive power restraint would really pressure congress to act. All recent presidents and Obama have used executive power to circumvent congress which has made congress weaker and weaker. It's no wonder they can hardly function when the president will just bypass their inactivity. It's almost like a crutch in my opinion.

The next best thing would be the return of our soldiers from foreign lands.

Any other "radical" agendas he may have would be buffered by the legislature and the least we would end up with is a slightly more conservative federal government.

[STROOSS]

Ron Paul has big ideas, both good and bad. Aside from being ignored by the media he has a more pressing problem as a presidential candidate; presidents lack the power to make any of the changes he advocates. As more and more power consolidates in the executive branch Machiavelli principles come into play and the president -- just as the prince -- has the power to do anything except make his own decisions (if he wishes to retain his position).

Ya, that's kind of the catch 22 he'd be in. But at least he could push congress to make big changes. Whether they'd listen to him or not is another issue. The executive branch has more power now than it ever had and he also wants to place the power back with congress. His ideas are good but the implementation of them would be extremely difficult.

[fuzzy moonunit]

Ron Paul has big ideas, both good and bad. Aside from being ignored by the media he has a more pressing problem as a presidential candidate; presidents lack the power to make any of the changes he advocates. As more and more power consolidates in the executive branch Machiavelli principles come into play and the president -- just as the prince -- has the power to do anything except make his own decisions (if he wishes to retain his position).

[mnstang]

Who the fuck reads books?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlKL_EpnSp8

[STROOSS]

Who the fuck reads books?

True

[1moretoy]

You should read Ron Paul's Book "Liberty Defined." I think things would make a lot more sense if you read that. His ideals are definitely outside the "norm" but they are based on simple principals and actually make a ton of sense. The War On Drugs is a joke and costs this country billions of dollars every year. Some of the biggest back door supporters of The War On Drugs are people tied to major drug networks. They know as long as there is a War On Drugs, the value you drugs themselves will be greatly inflated and make those who distribute drugs much more profit.

Who the fuck reads books?

[mnstang]

Solo beer pong?

that's how i roll

[94fobrah]

I didnt think so. He talked about how the war on drugs, such as marijuana, was a waste of money and resources. He also touched on how legal drugs such as alcohol and prescription medications are far more harmful and see more widespread abuse than a illegal drug with legitimate medical uses.

I would have to mostly agree, although the Mexicans you see cutting people up with cainsaws and dumping bodies in mass graves aren't doing it over grass.

[Turbohwagon]

i got drunk instead

Solo beer pong?

[STROOSS]

I didn't watch any of it, but for him to claim he is going to put a stop the drug war is just hilarious.

You should read Ron Paul's Book "Liberty Defined." I think things would make a lot more sense if you read that. His ideals are definitely outside the "norm" but they are based on simple principals and actually make a ton of sense. The War On Drugs is a joke and costs this country billions of dollars every year. Some of the biggest back door supporters of The War On Drugs are people tied to major drug networks. They know as long as there is a War On Drugs, the value you drugs themselves will be greatly inflated and make those who distribute drugs much more profit.

[CleanLX]

i got drunk instead

Must have been hunting at the time.

[mnstang]

i got drunk instead

[NOTNSS]

All this border talk is because the Canadians are stealing your cows, and mating them with turtles...

Fucking Canadians!

[Turbohwagon]

I'll end the drug war. I'll need a couple B2s, a handful of pilots, a couple pallets of JDAMs and some daisy cutters for good measure.

Edit: My plan will also help with border security.

[TwistedMetal]

I didn't watch any of it, but for him to claim he is going to put a stop the drug war is just hilarious.

I didnt think so. He talked about how the war on drugs, such as marijuana, was a waste of money and resources. He also touched on how legal drugs such as alcohol and prescription medications are far more harmful and see more widespread abuse than a illegal drug with legitimate medical uses.